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02/05/2007 05:02:36 PM · #1 |
I have a question regarding black and white prints; specifically, black and white prints on photography paper using b+w chemistry. I am aware that there are quality ink-jet and other printers, which may be worthy of a separate discussion.
I had mixed results using adorama. The printed images did not look at all like my black and white conversion, despite calibrating my monitor (heck, I even looked at it on a $12000 5MP calibrated monitor at work!). My color images at adorama (yes, different chemistry) turn out exactly as I see them on screen, but the black and white was less reliable. I did a test run where I printed two or three different black and white versions of the same picture at adorama, and then sent the full-color version. Their prints that originated from my color original turned out better than the ones from the black and white.
I am curious about dalmation, but their services for chemistry b+w prints range from reasonably priced ($2.10 for 5x7 "quality proof rc") to very expensive ($22.50 for your first 5x7 digital exhibition rc print, $7.50 for additional copies). I haven't yet tried mpix (for b+w or color), partially out of stubbornness in avoiding places that don't take american express.
Does anyone have experience with these or other labs for black and white chemistry-based printing? If so, I'd appreciate hearing your experiences, or any hints that you may have. Thanks! |
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02/05/2007 05:20:31 PM · #2 |
My question is, what were the differences you were seeing? Was it color shifts from neutral grey, or was is a different tonal range./contrast?
The reason I ask is that B&W chemistry is much different from paper to paper and even the chemicals used. Most papers don't have a a true grey color and all differ in contrast and tonal range.
For more accurate color and contrast, of your digital B&W's IMO, you are better off with color printing.
Message edited by author 2007-02-05 17:21:00.
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02/05/2007 05:34:23 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
My question is, what were the differences you were seeing? Was it color shifts from neutral grey, or was is a different tonal range./contrast? |
I'll look closely tonight and report on what I saw... it's been a couple months
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
For more accurate color and contrast, of your digital B&W's IMO, you are better off with color printing. |
So do my B+W conversion on the image, and then have the B+W jpg file printed with color chemistry? Hmm... I'll admit that I haven't tried that yet, but will sneak a couple in on my next order. cool...
thanks Mr. Forever! |
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02/05/2007 06:02:41 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by asimchoudhri:
So do my B+W conversion on the image, and then have the B+W jpg file printed with color chemistry? Hmm... I'll admit that I haven't tried that yet, but will sneak a couple in on my next order. cool...
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Yes, exactly. Color processing will produce the more accurate color and tonal range of your B&W jpg. I do suggest it be an RGB file, not a greyscale file.
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02/05/2007 07:45:47 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Yes, exactly. Color processing will produce the more accurate color and tonal range of your B&W jpg. I do suggest it be an RGB file, not a greyscale file. |
cool... i save my greyscale files as srgb .jpgs, but was printing them as b+w. i'm eager to see if they are more accurately represented on the color paper. not sure why i didn't try that before. |
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