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01/13/2007 03:28:02 PM · #1
I was out at Elk Island again and a pair of these birds were hanging out with the chickadees. My first thought was it's a type of Tanenger but the colouring isn't quite right.

01/13/2007 03:29:51 PM · #2
think they call'em house finches.
01/13/2007 03:31:08 PM · #3
Much larger than a house finch. It's about the size of a Bluejay.
01/13/2007 03:34:06 PM · #4
That looks like a pine grosbeak
01/13/2007 03:38:13 PM · #5
Yep, Pine Grosbeck is right. Native to the area. Pine Grosbeak

Message edited by author 2007-01-13 15:40:24.
01/13/2007 03:44:51 PM · #6
Thanks for the links guys. :o)
01/14/2007 05:11:56 PM · #7
Another bird id please (though I think it's a Red Tailed Hawk - very common around here)



Message edited by author 2007-01-14 17:12:35.
01/14/2007 05:48:51 PM · #8
Kinda looks like one but I'm no expert. I usually can't tell until I see them fly off and see their tail feathers. LOL
01/14/2007 05:52:11 PM · #9
No Collette, I'm pretty certain that's an immature accipiter, my guess being a goshawk. Take a look at the photo on the bottom right of this page, then read about "similar species" in the text. Van (vtruan) is a real expert, hopefully he'll chime in.
01/14/2007 07:06:48 PM · #10
I'm bettin it is a Swainson's Hawk. The slightly blackened cap on its head leads me to this. The barring along the tail plummage is indicative of a number of species in the area. The things go quite dark on occaision but not always.
01/14/2007 08:34:00 PM · #11
Originally posted by nova:

No Collette, I'm pretty certain that's an immature accipiter, my guess being a goshawk. Take a look at the photo on the bottom right of this page, then read about "similar species" in the text. Van (vtruan) is a real expert, hopefully he'll chime in.


It does look like the young Cooper's Hawk in the picture. BTW, it was chasing a bluejay. Maybe that's a hint.

-- Needed - bird book for North America.... (I see a trip to the bookstore in my future)

I found this site for identification purposes.

//www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/

If it is a Cooper's Hawk, he may be lost. According to the migration map anyway.

Here's a Sharp-shinned Hawk for comparison:

//www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/framlst/i3320id.html

Message edited by author 2007-01-14 21:20:27.
01/15/2007 07:24:24 PM · #12
Looks like a Cooper's to me. The long tail rounded and small head fit. I can't rule out a male goshawk (males are small in most raptors), since I have no size. But it may be too small for a goshawk. Nice capture. Van

P.S. 99% of Swainson's winter way south of the USA, so it would be extemely rare in Canada in winter and they do not have a long rounded tail.
01/15/2007 07:32:33 PM · #13
Originally posted by vtruan:

Looks like a Cooper's to me. The long tail rounded and small head fit. I can't rule out a male goshawk (males are small in most raptors), since I have no size. But it may be too small for a goshawk. Nice capture. Van

P.S. 99% of Swainson's winter way south of the USA, so it would be extemely rare in Canada in winter and they do not have a long rounded tail.


With a temporature of -20C I was surprised to see this guy.
01/15/2007 07:44:48 PM · #14
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Needed - bird book for North America.... (I see a trip to the bookstore in my future)


I highly recommend The Peterson Field Guide.
01/15/2007 07:48:55 PM · #15
Originally posted by alfresco:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Needed - bird book for North America.... (I see a trip to the bookstore in my future)


I highly recommend The Peterson Field Guide.


Thanks for the recommendation. I'm sure there's one for western North America as well. ;o)

Message edited by author 2007-01-15 19:49:42.
01/15/2007 07:51:49 PM · #16
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by alfresco:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Needed - bird book for North America.... (I see a trip to the bookstore in my future)


I highly recommend The Peterson Field Guide.


Thanks for the recommendation. I'm sure there's one for western North America as well. ;o)


Ask and ye shall receive :)
01/15/2007 07:53:16 PM · #17
Originally posted by alfresco:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by alfresco:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Needed - bird book for North America.... (I see a trip to the bookstore in my future)


I highly recommend The Peterson Field Guide.


Thanks for the recommendation. I'm sure there's one for western North America as well. ;o)


Ask and ye shall receive :)


Yeah, one more thing to add to the camera bag. Where can I get a Shirpa, JP?????? :)
01/15/2007 08:06:03 PM · #18
My favorite sherpa, Dave
01/16/2007 08:10:20 PM · #19
Originally posted by vtruan:

Looks like a Cooper's to me. The long tail rounded and small head fit. I can't rule out a male goshawk (males are small in most raptors), since I have no size. But it may be too small for a goshawk. Nice capture. Van

P.S. 99% of Swainson's winter way south of the USA, so it would be extemely rare in Canada in winter and they do not have a long rounded tail.


I did some more looking and bought myself a birding field guide (so now I'm an expert,... NOT) ;o)

Here's a crop of the previously posted picture.

and a slightly different view

Looking at the tail and the white bands around the brown stripes it's looking more like a Northern Goshawk. Also, based on the migration patterns of the Cooper's and this one, this one is more likely.

Message edited by author 2007-01-16 20:13:52.
01/17/2007 12:58:21 AM · #20
I agree, an immature Goshawk. Tail bands are irregular (not straight), upper back has white spots, and white eye-brow. I haven't seen an immature in a few years. Still think it maybe a male. Great new pictures.

IMHO - The best bird Id. book out is Sibley's Birds of North America. Dave is an expert in identificationI and superb artist. I birded with him off-an-on for a month at Cape May back when was a guide and struggling artist. I haven't use Peterson's since he died, the updates are not his paintings and are digitized photos (more for biginners). Peterson was a great wildlife artist and will be hard to replace his wonderful illistrations, Just my thoughts. Van
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