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01/02/2007 03:43:58 PM · #1
I think I've noticed a disturbing thing.

Shoot Raw. Open image in Canon DPP. Adjust settings for exposure, sharpness, WB, etc.

Pic looks really good on screen. I like. I like much.

Use Canon's "Trimming Tool". This, in theory, should result in a smaller Tif file and, if practiced regularly, make my hard drive live slightly longer. Not normally a part of workflow, but have a wedding-worth of images to process.

Convert and save to Tif. Now, I don't have CS2 or none of that, (PSE2), so I convert to 8 bit.

Open in PS Elements.

Image looks MUCH softer, even slightly pixelated. Image, basically, sucks.

Just curious - does anyone know if this is the trimming tool? Is it the 8 bit conversion? There are no quality settings on saving as Tif.

I don't like.

Ideas welcome.

Yes, I fully plan to try it without the trim tool, but this is worth discussing, I think.
01/02/2007 03:47:15 PM · #2
I go used to go RAW to 8-bit TIFF all the time, and never had that problem. PS7 wouldn't work well with 16-bit images. Now I have CS2, I am going to 16-bit TIFF, but frankly I really can't see the difference unless I get really anal.

So something's screwy for sure. But I don't have any experience with DPP or its Trim Tool.

R.
01/02/2007 04:27:56 PM · #3
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

I go used to go RAW to 8-bit TIFF all the time, and never had that problem. PS7 wouldn't work well with 16-bit images. Now I have CS2, I am going to 16-bit TIFF, but frankly I really can't see the difference unless I get really anal.

So something's screwy for sure. But I don't have any experience with DPP or its Trim Tool.

R.


I surely don't have to be anal to see this. It's "jump out and grab you" obvious.

Thanks for the input.
01/02/2007 09:25:12 PM · #4
I don't have the same conversion program as you, but I have done the same process with something called Image Data Converter. When I save in 8bit tiff or 16 bit tiff, very little difference. I have discovered, though, that the sharpness function seems to have an affect. When I sharpen the RAW image, it does look pretty crappy once I open it for regular editing. I don't bother sharpening anymore in RAW. It also may be that you had your camera set to sharpen + when taking the image, which would also create the pixelization problem. Anyway, when you sharpen in RAW do you have four settings, sharpness, overshoot, undershoot and threshold? The threshold setting may cause some issues with pixelization once you save as a TIFF. I usually just just use sharpness, if at all, and I can't use it at all if I have my camera set to sharpness +.
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