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12/11/2006 01:04:30 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by candlerain:
You seem to always have an answer/comment or tutorial to help people out. I greatly appreciate your posts. |
Well, I have a whole LOT of experience to draw on; I'm a retired professional photographer, I taught photography at UCSD, I've been using Photoshop since it first came to windows. And being retired I have a lot of time :-) Thanks for the kind words.
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12/11/2006 01:15:30 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by candlerain:
Oh how I wished I had  Bear_Music's many talents... |
tone mapping is easy on Photomatix :P |
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12/11/2006 03:13:59 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by candlerain:
I don't find this exagerated... He just put more emphasis on what is already there... It was captured by the camera. No colors were 'added'. |
sure there were, there was no red before. he created that by shifting the yellow to red. i was there, there was defintely no red in that sunset.
could someone who wasnt there tell that the red was added in after? i dunno, you tell me... ;-)
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12/11/2006 03:17:16 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by candlerain:
Oh how I wished I had Bear_Music's many talents... |
Yeah, just not his HDR one.... lol |
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12/11/2006 03:19:51 PM · #30 |
bear_music: its in the bright clouds in the middle left. it doesnt actually look that bad, but where there was once detail, there is now only white.
also, your edit looks fairly blotchy, is there something im missing here? is that just as a result of working from the small copy?
anyways, your feedback is much appreciated, ill see what I can come up with here. always nice to have one of the masters drop some advice...
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12/11/2006 03:28:42 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by option:
bear_music: its in the bright clouds in the middle left. it doesnt actually look that bad, but where there was once detail, there is now only white.
also, your edit looks fairly blotchy, is there something im missing here? is that just as a result of working from the small copy?
anyways, your feedback is much appreciated, ill see what I can come up with here. always nice to have one of the masters drop some advice... |
It's because of the small copy, and the predominance of blues. Tone mapping is always difficult with blues, and in small-scale images at low res the signal-to-noise ratio goes through the roof when we tone map.
The best way to work would be from an original RAW image, making 3 variations (an over, an under, and a normal) and combining them into a single HDRI composite then tone mapping that.
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12/11/2006 03:50:04 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by option:
bear_music: its in the bright clouds in the middle left. it doesnt actually look that bad, but where there was once detail, there is now only white.
also, your edit looks fairly blotchy, is there something im missing here? is that just as a result of working from the small copy?
anyways, your feedback is much appreciated, ill see what I can come up with here. always nice to have one of the masters drop some advice... |
It's because of the small copy, and the predominance of blues. Tone mapping is always difficult with blues, and in small-scale images at low res the signal-to-noise ratio goes through the roof when we tone map.
The best way to work would be from an original RAW image, making 3 variations (an over, an under, and a normal) and combining them into a single HDRI composite then tone mapping that.
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Actually the best way is to take 3 or more images of varying exposures, that way you can REALLY cut down on noise and get a true high dynamic range image. |
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12/11/2006 04:44:37 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by marksimms:
Actually the best way is to take 3 or more images of varying exposures, that way you can REALLY cut down on noise and get a true high dynamic range image. |
Well yeah, but that's after the fact; in this case he hasn't done that, so for THIS image, if he has a RAW (which I don't know he does), then that's the way to go. Incidentally, I am finding that for a lot of my most dramatic shots taking multiple originals is not an option because the clouds are moving too fast and the wind is blowing foliage around; true HDR images in these conditions are proving unsatisfactory, but as long as the tonal range is not too extreme the RAW processing workflow produces very nice results.
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12/11/2006 05:26:05 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
if he has a RAW (which I don't know he does)
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Nope. It wasnt really a serious shoot, it was a "I just got a new camera and am taking 8000 pictures to get used to it" kind of shoot.
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