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12/08/2006 12:35:32 AM · #1 |
This is one of my first DSLR shots, with my new Pentax. Im still getting used to fine tuning in camera settings, and dont currently have the HD space to shoot RAW all the time. Anyway, the original is a jpeg straight out of the camera, one is an initial minimalist PP, the third my actual attempt. All critique/suggestions welcome! Ill repay any advice with comments...
original
1st attempt
Actual attempt at PP
Thanks!
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12/08/2006 01:49:29 PM · #2 |
32 views, no suggestions? Is it perfect? I hardly think so...
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12/08/2006 02:07:54 PM · #3 |
In my opinion you've done a good job with the post work in these. I also personally like the vignetting you added in the third shot. I think you've done the work necessary to make this picture bright and colourful and pleasing to look at, so there isn't a lot to say I would think. It's good, necessary post work in my opinion. I think I would have sharpened the image (doesn't seem to have been sharpened at all), though it could be argued that the softer feel is more appropriate to the subject matter. And you should really consider shooting raw. One of the first things I noticed was the artefacting around the birds in the sky. |
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12/08/2006 02:09:21 PM · #4 |
I think it looks teriffic! The only thing I would say is to straighten the horizon. But the colors and everything looks wonderful to me. :) |
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12/08/2006 02:09:59 PM · #5 |
Nice shot, but I would get rid of the birds.
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12/08/2006 02:14:03 PM · #6 |
I am NO expert at PP ... but I prefer the actual (2nd) attempt ... the colors are brighter and far more rich ... I like the way you've brought out the reflective quality in the water also ... I don't have any editing sofware here at work, so I can't play around and offer suggestions ... personally, I kinda find the planes/helicopters a bit distracting ... really cool photo and processing though ... |
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12/08/2006 02:18:30 PM · #7 |
i'd take the birds, or whatever they are, out of the picture. also, make it a tiny bit brighter and add some contrast (not too much). |
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12/08/2006 02:19:21 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by magenmarie: I think it looks teriffic! The only thing I would say is to straighten the horizon. But the colors and everything looks wonderful to me. :) |
I knew I forgot something... youre right, it is ever so slightly crooked. I noticed it but completely forgot.
The "birds" are planes. I have the same shot without them, I dunno, I kinda like them...
Now Ill get on some commenting...
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12/08/2006 02:22:02 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by option: Originally posted by magenmarie: I think it looks teriffic! The only thing I would say is to straighten the horizon. But the colors and everything looks wonderful to me. :) |
I knew I forgot something... youre right, it is ever so slightly crooked. I noticed it but completely forgot.
The "birds" are planes. I have the same shot without them, I dunno, I kinda like them...
Now Ill get on some commenting... |
I know how that goes...In my current challenge entry, I forgot to sharpen it!!! ARG! |
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12/08/2006 02:28:26 PM · #10 |
I, too, agree that the birds/planes, whatever, look like sensor dust and do nothing for the image in my opinion |
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12/08/2006 02:51:22 PM · #11 |
Planes gone, horizon straightened, contrast and brightness bumped a tad. Ive blown some of the highlights though...does anyone see that as a problem? how would you work around that, preserving the highlights while brightening everything else while still maintaining high contrast?
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12/08/2006 02:55:21 PM · #12 |
Good job. I like it better now. There is still a little distracting speck in the water on the left that I would take out. I would probably also use a new layer and adjust the curves of the water to make it pop out more and blend the 2 layers together with a mask.
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12/08/2006 02:56:07 PM · #13 |
CAme here to post my opinion, saw the last shot you posted and you have already done what I was going to suggest! |
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12/08/2006 03:03:35 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by candlerain: Good job. I like it better now. There is still a little distracting speck in the water on the left that I would take out. I would probably also use a new layer and adjust the curves of the water to make it pop out more and blend the 2 layers together with a mask. |
My layer skills are currently limited to making borders. Care to take a stab at it?
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12/08/2006 03:17:25 PM · #15 |
Set black point on the hills, bumped the whites a bit, left mids alone.
Bumped the blues and cyans (slight hue shift) shifted the yellows to red.
Yeah, don't like the large border.
edit - oops, cropped a bit off the bottom.
Message edited by author 2006-12-08 15:18:50.
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12/08/2006 03:24:43 PM · #16 |
Hmm... I dont usually like deviating too far from natural, but your edit certainly adds alot more punch to it, making it more interesting (although very exaggerated).
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12/08/2006 03:31:08 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by option:
Planes gone, horizon straightened, contrast and brightness bumped a tad. Ive blown some of the highlights though...does anyone see that as a problem? how would you work around that, preserving the highlights while brightening everything else while still maintaining high contrast? |
Left you a comment on the pic.
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12/08/2006 03:34:46 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by option: Hmm... I dont usually like deviating too far from natural, but your edit certainly adds alot more punch to it, making it more interesting (although very exaggerated). |
photojournalist or artist, your choice.
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12/08/2006 03:52:13 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by wavelength: photojournalist or artist, your choice. |
Wrong options. Photographer or a digital painter. You choose. |
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12/09/2006 02:02:06 PM · #20 |
Thanks for the advice, all. I think I got at least one comment in on everyone who stopped by!
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12/11/2006 10:59:36 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by option: Hmm... I dont usually like deviating too far from natural, but your edit certainly adds alot more punch to it, making it more interesting (although very exaggerated). |
I don't find this exagerated... He just put more emphasis on what is already there... It was captured by the camera. No colors were 'added'.
Message edited by author 2006-12-11 10:59:59.
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12/11/2006 11:53:22 AM · #22 |
Here's what it looks like with a fairly pronounced tone mapping. There are noise and haloing problems, but that's due to working from the small original. Something pretty close to this could be gotten from shadow/highlight in CS2 if you have that. And of course anywhere in between this version and your latest version would be fruitful territory.
To answer your question on your latest version, I don't see the highlights as blown at all. I'm more concerned with the murkiness of the shadow areas in the bottom half.
R.
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12/11/2006 12:08:30 PM · #23 |
Oh how I wished I had Bear_Music's many talents...
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12/11/2006 12:10:33 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by candlerain: Oh how I wished I had Bear_Music's many talents... |
That's kind of you to say, but there's basically zero talent involved in what I did here; it's just that straightforward application of a tool. Anyone could do it with a little practice if they had the tool :-)
R.
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12/11/2006 12:26:24 PM · #25 |
You seem to always have an answer/comment or tutorial to help people out. I greatly appreciate your posts.
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