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11/20/2006 07:15:57 PM · #1 |
I am having problems with the background in this picture. When I get the background to where it is black and not visible then his shirt blends in with the background and you cannot see the shirt. I saved it as the lowest .jpg setting there was so that is why there is some pixilization in the pic. If somone is able to tell me how to fix it I would forever be in your debt :)
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11/20/2006 07:23:11 PM · #2 |
severeal things to fix here.
first the concept: never shoot a black person with a black shirt on a black background... unless what you want is some kind of blending between them.
In the image: there's some color cast in the guy shirt and some tonal issues also in the background. Was this shoot in raw. If so could be easy fixed. ÃŽf not less luck. Have to be done in PS.
Fixing this shoot while shooting: just as simple as putting a white reflector in the right side of the guy will add some light to separate him from the background. Doing this in PS you need do select them both, separate them to a new layer and work on them and the background separatly, but probably it will always look fake.
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11/20/2006 07:58:57 PM · #3 |
Sorry, but I totally disagree witht he previous comment. You can certainly shoot someone wearing black against black and it can make for some wonderfully dramatic images. The problem with the image you posted is that you have your models too close to the background, not allowing separation between the guy's shirt and the backdrop. A light between the two and more distance would have fixed it in the studio.
Post processing, you'll probably want to use a layer mask to process the background separately from the people so that you can 'make' that separation that is missing.
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11/20/2006 08:09:48 PM · #4 |
| I agree with Idnic. For what it's worth :-) |
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11/20/2006 08:20:49 PM · #5 |
It can be fixed.
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His shirt starts falling apart and pixelizing though
as the original was only 100k in file size.
(just a quickie edit and should have brought her hair back out)
Message edited by author 2006-11-20 20:21:39. |
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11/20/2006 09:02:53 PM · #6 |
Hmmm... do you dare play with the color of his shirt???
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11/20/2006 09:17:57 PM · #7 |
I just did some shots of people wearing black against a black background and they came out great because I did exactly what Cindi describes above. Just make sure that the subjects are several feet in front of the background and that you light them well. If you can also light them a bit from behind, even better.
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11/20/2006 09:51:42 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
Hmmm... do you dare play with the color of his shirt??? |
Good idea! You could really make it pop! :)
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11/20/2006 09:58:27 PM · #9 |
| David (dwterry), I'm interested in knowing what edits you did to make your version of that photo? Care to step us through the process? |
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11/20/2006 10:27:27 PM · #10 |
Hmmm... Let me see if I can remember everything:
1) Duplicated the background layer
2) Ran the Highlight/Shadows adjustment to brighten up the shirt enough to see some texture in it.
3) Used a layer mask to undo the adjustment everywhere except the shirt.
4) Added an empty layer in color blend mode where I then painted over his shirt with a dark blue color. Then faded the layer to where I liked it.
5) Duplicated the layer again because I wanted to play with the light rendering filter using the spotlight mode. I was originally going to throw some color onto the background but changed my mind. Dropped the opacity of this layer down to where I liked it.
6) Added a 50%-neutral-gray Overlay mode layer, which I used for dodging and burning. Here I fixed up some excessive highlights that had appeared on the girls forehead during step 5. And then I contoured her face and body and deepened the black of the background.
7) Finally added a vignette around the edges.
I think that's all I did...
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11/20/2006 11:37:48 PM · #11 |
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11/20/2006 11:40:02 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by dwterry:
Hmmm... do you dare play with the color of his shirt??? |
Good idea! You could really make it pop! :)
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Very popping, man... |
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11/20/2006 11:42:04 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by dwterry:
Hmmm... do you dare play with the color of his shirt??? |
Good idea! You could really make it pop! :)
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Needs little white flowers.
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11/21/2006 12:01:01 PM · #14 |
| Thanks for the tips. The original is in RAW format if that makes any difference on being able to fix it. |
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11/21/2006 12:19:46 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Nitrox:
Thanks for the tips. The original is in RAW format if that makes any difference on being able to fix it. |
Absolutely. With the RAW file you could pull out more detail in his shirt and do a better job of separating him from the background.
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11/21/2006 12:50:37 PM · #16 |
I have no advice but I'll add:
The girl is a QT !
Originally posted by Nitrox:
I am having problems with the background in this picture. When I get the background to where it is black and not visible then his shirt blends in with the background and you cannot see the shirt. I saved it as the lowest .jpg setting there was so that is why there is some pixilization in the pic. If somone is able to tell me how to fix it I would forever be in your debt :)
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=429822
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Message edited by author 2006-11-21 12:50:56.
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11/21/2006 01:23:09 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by BradP:
It can be fixed.
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His shirt starts falling apart and pixelizing though
as the original was only 100k in file size.
(just a quickie edit and should have brought her hair back out) |
how'd you do it, Brad? |
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11/21/2006 01:42:00 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by dewed:
Originally posted by BradP:
It can be fixed.
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His shirt starts falling apart and pixelizing though
as the original was only 100k in file size.
(just a quickie edit and should have brought her hair back out) |
how'd you do it, Brad? |
Mostly creating a new layer via copy, added lighting from the right side, then zooming in and erasing back everything except his shirt, then adjusted contrast a bit and flattened. Made some tone adjustments for skin and think in the final, zoomed in and burned the background right up to the shirt outline to ensure it was black.
Something like that anyway - repair editing is so fluid, no set recipe and often just fiddle with it to see the effects, always in a new layer, so unwanted changes can be erased back. |
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