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10/24/2006 12:45:31 PM · #1 |
The loose description about bokeh is that it is the out of focus foreground and/or background (according to the challenge submission page). Does out of focus foreground count...? Most everyone is worrying about the background and donuts and circles etc. on other forum threads.
Also does the "out of focus" bit have to be created by the lense focus, or could it be as a result of external influences such as mist, smoke dusty road...? |
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10/24/2006 12:47:59 PM · #2 |
Main Entry: bokeh
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: a Japanese term for the subjective aesthetic quality of out-of-focus areas of a photographic image
Example: The bokeh, or quality of the blurred image in the photograph, was described and discussed.
Message edited by author 2006-10-24 12:49:20. |
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10/24/2006 12:50:07 PM · #3 |
| I'm assuming this means the out of focus areas caused by the lens |
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10/24/2006 12:51:32 PM · #4 |
It always gets labeled as those circles, but from what I can tell, those are not really what Bokeh is about. It is more the coolness of the out of focus background.
Message edited by author 2006-10-24 12:51:43. |
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10/24/2006 01:05:22 PM · #5 |
It's the OOF highlights in the background or foreground.
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10/24/2006 01:12:15 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by boomtap:
It always gets labeled as those circles, but from what I can tell, those are not really what Bokeh is about. It is more the coolness of the out of focus background. |
I say it's the circles! :D But then, there are several definitions floating around, so pick your favorite version and go with it. |
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10/24/2006 01:17:47 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by boomtap:
It always gets labeled as those circles, but from what I can tell, those are not really what Bokeh is about. It is more the coolness of the out of focus background. |
I say it's the circles! :D But then, there are several definitions floating around, so pick your favorite version and go with it. |
Darn... now I'm not sure which one to enter. ROFL
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10/24/2006 01:20:11 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by boomtap:
It always gets labeled as those circles, but from what I can tell, those are not really what Bokeh is about. It is more the coolness of the out of focus background. |
I say it's the circles! :D But then, there are several definitions floating around, so pick your favorite version and go with it. |
Darn... now I'm not sure which one to enter. ROFL |
You got to get one with both interesting out of focus stuff and a few circles thrown in, and you'll have it made :)
Oh, I forgot, it's gotta have a subject too. |
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10/24/2006 01:23:10 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by ursula:
... Oh, I forgot, it's gotta have a subject too. |
Dang! I knew I forgot something. :D |
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10/24/2006 01:34:12 PM · #10 |
For Beer: "Tastes Great ... Less Filling"
For BoKeh: "Smooth and Creamy ... Little Circles"
:-P |
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10/24/2006 01:44:21 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by craigester:
The loose description about bokeh is that it is the out of focus foreground and/or background (according to the challenge submission page). Does out of focus foreground count...? Most everyone is worrying about the background and donuts and circles etc. on other forum threads.
Also does the "out of focus" bit have to be created by the lense focus, or could it be as a result of external influences such as mist, smoke dusty road...? |
The description is best defined by what the voters think:
Bokeh II results
Bokeh I results |
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10/24/2006 01:50:19 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by boomtap:
It always gets labeled as those circles, but from what I can tell, those are not really what Bokeh is about. It is more the coolness of the out of focus background. |
I say it's the circles! :D But then, there are several definitions floating around, so pick your favorite version and go with it. |
Darn... now I'm not sure which one to enter. ROFL |
That was the same boat I was in! |
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10/24/2006 01:52:01 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by craigester:
The loose description about bokeh is that it is the out of focus foreground and/or background (according to the challenge submission page). Does out of focus foreground count...? Most everyone is worrying about the background and donuts and circles etc. on other forum threads. |
You are right, bokeh can be either foreground or background. The challenge description specifically says background so use your best judgement what you want to do. Oh, actually bokeh is the 'quality' of the out-of-focus part of the image.
On the technical side, bokeh is generally discussed in terms of the quality of yours lens' optics. That is where all the 'circles of confusion' and lens distortion talk comes from. But I don't think the Japanese had those things in mind when they invented the term. They just think of how 'pleasing' the out-of-focus parts are.
Originally posted by craigester:
Also does the "out of focus" bit have to be created by the lense focus, or could it be as a result of external influences such as mist, smoke dusty road...? |
Don't see why not as long as it is out-of-focus.
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10/24/2006 01:52:51 PM · #14 |
grrr- just reshot and I hate it. AUGHHHHHH
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10/24/2006 01:55:14 PM · #15 |
| Good example of this kind of shot Bokeh Image |
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10/24/2006 02:00:57 PM · #16 |
I don't have any dead mice. ;~(
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10/24/2006 02:06:30 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
The challenge description specifically says background... |
No it doesn't: "...the out-of-focus foreground or background elements..." |
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10/24/2006 02:07:05 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
But I don't think the Japanese had those things in mind when they invented the term. They just think of how 'pleasing' the out-of-focus parts are.
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HEAR HEAR! |
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10/24/2006 02:10:03 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Givemeashot:
Good example of this kind of shot Bokeh Image |
not to open a can of worms, but for my money, that shot has some horrible bokeh... that big white splotch behind the mouse and up above the beak just kill the photo for me...
but, oh... it does have those silly little circles... i'll grant you that...
but the bokeh? bleck.
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10/24/2006 02:16:47 PM · #20 |
| Agreed that is unpleasing BoKeh. |
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10/24/2006 02:24:07 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by kudzu:
Originally posted by Givemeashot:
Good example of this kind of shot Bokeh Image |
not to open a can of worms, but for my money, that shot has some horrible bokeh... that big white splotch behind the mouse and up above the beak just kill the photo for me...
but, oh... it does have those silly little circles... i'll grant you that...
but the bokeh? bleck. |
No my Shot i just found it... I think ill stay away from this Challenge.... =) |
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10/24/2006 02:26:55 PM · #22 |
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10/24/2006 02:29:22 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by kudzu:
Originally posted by Givemeashot:
Good example of this kind of shot Bokeh Image |
not to open a can of worms, but for my money, that shot has some horrible bokeh... that big white splotch behind the mouse and up above the beak just kill the photo for me...
but, oh... it does have those silly little circles... i'll grant you that...
but the bokeh? bleck. |
And it has text added - automatic DQ!!! :) |
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10/24/2006 02:32:21 PM · #24 |
| I am going by the previous winners. That is the only way to tell what voters think is bokeh. |
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10/24/2006 02:33:09 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
The challenge description specifically says background... |
No it doesn't: "...the out-of-focus foreground or background elements..." |
It isn't very interesting by itself, but take a photograph whose subject is enhanced by the bokeh of the background. |
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