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10/16/2006 04:07:51 PM · #26
Originally posted by graphicfunk:

smyk's point is well taken. Many times the charm of an image depends on controlled lighting and uncalibrated screens do a nasty job on low key images as well as those images that depend on selected strips of lighting. An uncalibrated screen will show parts of backgrounds that are never meant to be seen or hide valuable visual information. At worst, they distort the meaning of the light and shadow relationship which is all we have to work with.

Some images depend on a calibrated screen. This subject has popped up before and many people, including myself, are sacrificing making images that are so close to the border. Of course, this will limit this delicate expression somewhat, but there is no way with the present technology to have automatic color calibration across the board. Not only that, some members are overwhelmed by the process and subjective calibration yields results in accordance with what the viewer finds acceptable and this varies with the ability to discern tonal gradation.

I just wish to state that it is a legitimate complaint.


I agree somewhat but it still falls back on the photographer to fix. Think of it like web design. It is not a legitimate complaint to blame the viewer of your web site if you choose colors in your web design that not everyone can see correctly. That is the fault of the designer and not the viewer. The designer should have choosen colors that everyone can see across all monitors. Same goes for designing for a screen resolution that not everyone uses. Now the web designer does have standard guidelines he/she can follow where as the digital photographer doesn't however that still doesn't excuse the photographer for knowing that the problem is on their end to fix.

And really the problem isn't that hard to fix. Nobody can see detail in an area that is completely black. It's not hard to process images in photoshop to make areas black. For starters the photographer shouldn't be using their eyes to gauge whether something is black or not. As for having critical detail hidden again that falls on the photographer to do something about it once they realize that's happening. Again like web design you have to work within a limited palette so as to reach the greater audience or risk losing some of that audience. This is life on the web. Nothing you can do to change the viewer's habits or their systems but you can change how you process your photos so that they display close to what you want across everyone's screens.

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10/16/2006 04:34:14 PM · #27
I hear "too dark" on about 60% of my stuff. I know the calibration is right and I like dark, so I set myself up for it whenever I enter. Luckily, in the "Faceless Portrait" it paid off. Asking for leniency when it comes to the variables of the seeing eye and the calbrated monitor is almost an impossible request, as the differences are as vast as the colors of the spectrum.
10/16/2006 04:38:29 PM · #28
Originally posted by Jutilda:

I hear "too dark" on about 60% of my stuff. I know the calibration is right and I like dark, so I set myself up for it whenever I enter...

You area 'dark' woman, Judy, but with a wickedly wonderful personality! lol
10/16/2006 04:47:04 PM · #29
If it looks too dark to a person, then that is what they see. Just except the comment as being their opinion on your shot and either lighten it up or continue on, expecting comments of "too dark for me".
I have made the too dark comment several times when I think a shot would look better a bit or alot lighter. I maybe wrong, but that is what I see. Just remember the votes usually meet the comments too. Just some thoughts. Van
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