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10/06/2003 03:44:36 PM · #1 |
Came across this, thought I'd share with the DPC community...
//www.rayovac.com/15minutes/ic3_home.html
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10/06/2003 03:54:17 PM · #2 |
That sounded cool until I got to this paragraph (emphasis added):
Submission of a photograph in this Contest grants Sponsor and its agents the right, on a worldwide basis, to publish, use, adapt, edit, store, display, copy and/or modify such photograph in any way, in any and all media (including electronic media and on Sponsor's website), without limitation, and without consideration to the participant. Submission of any photograph further constitutes the participant̢۪s consent to irrevocably assign and transfer to the Sponsor any and all rights, title and interest in the photograph, including, without limitation, all copyrights. Photographs must be the original work(s) of the participant; may not have won previous awards; may not have been entered in any other competition; may not have been published previously; must not infringe third-party rights; and must be suitable for publication (i.e., may not be obscene or indecent).
Message edited by author 2003-10-06 15:54:45. |
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10/06/2003 04:19:11 PM · #3 |
That's typical of most contests.
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10/06/2003 04:23:21 PM · #4 |
Looks like a low cost way for Rayovac to get LOTS of images for their marketing / sales purposes
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10/06/2003 04:50:15 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by vonautsch:
That's typical of most contests. |
Most of them (that I'd submit to, anyway) want a non-exclusive, royalty-free license to continue to use the image for promotional purposes, but don't take away your right to reproduce/sell images yourself. If I had a photo worthy of winning a juried contest like this, why should THEY get to sell 20 x 30 print for $5000? (I notice the file-size "limit" is 5 mb.) |
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10/06/2003 06:18:30 PM · #6 |
Hmmmm!!!
Interesting, this aspect of competitions and magazine submissions etc has long been the bugbear of wet film entries.
If you value your work and believe it will earn more than the prize by selling it on the likes of dpcprints then do not enter such competitions. Otherwise go for it!
I note the digitalphotocontest site want the full original picture for proof up front but do state in their terms that the photographer holds/retains full rights. Anyone had problems to the contrary?
Personally, I agree with what is possibly the general consensus that it would be great to win money and prizes for the pictures I take (one day maybe!) but I would certainly try to remain aware of what I might be giving away.
Just my 2p's worth.
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10/06/2003 07:03:06 PM · #7 |
| Yup, I guess my attitude is that the value of the top prize prolly makes submission worth giving up the rights, besides, it's only for THAT image, doesn't mean I can't have VERY similar images with rights retained, e.g. a second exposure taken, say, within 1/3 second :^) |
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10/06/2003 10:07:47 PM · #8 |
| But you are giving up the rights whether or not you win any prizes. There will be thousands of submissions. Nothing says they have to give the prizes to the most "valuable" ones either. |
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10/06/2003 10:33:32 PM · #9 |
this is an interesting topic
the loss of rights of the artist
in an attempt to make a name
what do they do with all the losing images?
potentially the prize pays for itself -w the losing entries...
then again - take a couple shots of each - and you are all set if you can go to court and prove that it's not the same image...
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10/06/2003 11:05:53 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by soup:
this is an interesting topic
the loss of rights of the artist
in an attempt to make a name
what do they do with all the losing images?
potentially the prize pays for itself -w the losing entries...
then again - take a couple shots of each - and you are all set if you can go to court and prove that it's not the same image...
soup |
Hypothetically:
I take two great snaps of the Golden Gate Bridge just as a US Navy carrier cruises underneath.
I submit file A to the contest. Six months later I see they've contracted with the Franklin Mint to use the image on a commemorative plate/collector set/etc.
I say "great, I'll print up a few of the others and sell them on Ebay/Amazon."
Franklin Mint's lawyers say, "whoa, your work infringes on and dilutes the commercial value of our collector set -- cease and desist."
Even if I end up "winning" it is likely to cost more than the value of the photo .... |
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10/07/2003 12:11:30 AM · #11 |
OK, then how does Mr. Cool (who nobody knows) go about trying to get something from (what many people, who nobody knows, tell him is awesome) pictures??? Contest sites take your control away, other venues don't want unsolicited works...
From someone who is brand new (again) to photography, rediscovering a love, and would be happy as sh!t to wake up everyday expecting to make a living doing what he likes...
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10/07/2003 12:14:32 AM · #12 |
Whoops looks like they goofed:
"Winners List
For a list of winners, send a self-addressed, stamped envelope for receipt by February 28, 2003 to Rayovac Corp., Attention: Digital Photo Contest, 601 Rayovac Drive, Madison, WI 53711. "
Does this mean the contest ended over 7 months ago?! :)
At least they are up-front about the rules and their intentions about what the contest is about. They are willing to pay $7000 for the rights to 1000's of pics to use in advertising or whatever else they have planned for them. Seems fair to me. I was going to try winning $1000 of that loot, but since the contest ended over 7 months ago I guess I won't... :D
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10/07/2003 12:23:34 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by ChrisW123:
Whoops looks like they goofed:
"Winners List
For a list of winners, send a self-addressed, stamped envelope for receipt by February 28, 2003 to Rayovac Corp., Attention: Digital Photo Contest, 601 Rayovac Drive, Madison, WI 53711. "
Does this mean the contest ended over 7 months ago?! :)
At least they are up-front about the rules and their intentions about what the contest is about. They are willing to pay $7000 for the rights to 1000's of pics to use in advertising or whatever else they have planned for them. Seems fair to me. I was going to try winning $1000 of that loot, but since the contest ended over 7 months ago I guess I won't... :D |
I noticed they also goofed up where they say the contest goes from Oct 2003 to Dec 2003, but go on to say "entries from all 12 months" |
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10/07/2003 12:27:18 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by irockstars:
I noticed they also goofed up where they say the contest goes from Oct 2003 to Dec 2003, but go on to say "entries from all 12 months" |
I just noticed that also! I was about to post on it... On the home page it says "...will run for 3 months... and there will be 4 monthly winners". What!!! How can it run for 3 months but there are FOUR monthly winners? Then in the rules it mentions there will be 12 monthly winners! No idea what's going on now.
Message edited by author 2003-10-07 00:28:02. |
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10/07/2003 12:38:11 AM · #15 |
| There are four categories, so one winner in each category means four monthly prizes. |
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10/07/2003 12:42:47 AM · #16 |
| Brian... sorry I don't know your username... I noticed that framing is not allowed in the rules. |
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