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10/07/2006 11:59:56 AM · #1
How do the shutters work on the older 35mm film cameras?

If i ripped out the shutter on a rebel 2000 would the camera stop working with some kind of error?

I have a bunch of these flatfoto radio shack cameras and i wanted to try and put one nside an SLR body but ide have to rip out the shutter so that it was just open all the time. Then the flatfoto would do its thing threw theSLR lens.

I think the newer SLRs have some kind of computer that monitors all the functions of the camera and may lock up or give an error and not continue to function if it detects the shutter is damaged.

Ide have to find an older one that didnt have all this monitoring stuff. Anyone have some ideas?

I also thought about just making a wooden box and then just buying a bayonet ring and screw it to the box to mount the lens on and put the guts inside the box but it wouldnt look as cool.

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Message edited by author 2006-10-07 20:58:55.
10/07/2006 12:51:51 PM · #2
You could just keep the shutter open with Bulb mode and a cable release.
10/07/2006 01:04:59 PM · #3
All SLRs have bulb mode?
10/07/2006 01:20:43 PM · #4
It is certainly possible adapt a simple digital camera to an SLR, but the only potential advantage is the lenses available for the slr. An old Pentax K-1000 uses a mechanical shutter that can be locked open. The major hurdle is getting the digital sensor close enough to the SLR focal plane to be useful. You would completely give up the SLR camera controls and rely on the digital camera shutter and sensing. That means you have to remove the original lens assembly of the digital camera but keep it's shutter mechanism intact. Some of the elcheapo p&s cameras may still work for such an application after removing the lens.
A better alternative may be to buy an extension tube (one centimeter or so) and use that to adapt slr lenses to your modified p&s (internal lens removed).
10/07/2006 02:58:35 PM · #5
Originally posted by BowerR64:

... ide have to rip out the shitter so that it was just open all the time...


Are you working on a camera, or renovating your bathroom?
10/07/2006 03:05:19 PM · #6
Get an old mechanical camera. Preferably one with a removable back, like a Nikon F or F2. With the back off, you should have planty of room to mount the digital sensor at the shutter plane. You'll be able to lock the shutter open easily, but the camera viewfinder will, of course, be useless. The aperture controls will still work too.

If you were really ambitious, you could mark on the camera's focusing screen where the dig. sensor's image area is and then set up your shot using the optical finder, then switch the the webcam for preview and capture.

10/07/2006 03:45:05 PM · #7
too funny - i lived in a place once where we had to piss down an open hole ;}

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by BowerR64:

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... ide have to rip out the shitter so that it was just open all the time...

Are you working on a camera, or renovating your bathroom?

10/07/2006 10:12:33 PM · #8
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by BowerR64:

... ide have to rip out the shitter so that it was just open all the time...


Are you working on a camera, or renovating your bathroom?


You guys always point out my shitter mistakes. I think you guys just go around searching for shitter knowing people will hit the wrong key when trying to say shutter.

This is the camera i was going to use



Its a 3 megapixel and its all contained on those 2 boards. The sensor is a seperate board wich should be easy to drop down into the camera. Its just a little plug i could run threw the back of the SLR camera maybe and hook the back of the film door, and still use all the digital camera functions. I got 10 of these cameras off e-bay for $25. so i wana tear some of em up and try out some stuff. Hooking an SLR lens to this sensor sounds kinda fun.

There is no moving parts on the camera at all and it even has its own built in memory but i can add SD if i wanted.

Message edited by author 2006-10-07 22:15:54.
10/07/2006 10:39:58 PM · #9
sounds like a good project ;)
i'll guess the biggest hassle will be aligning the sensor withthe film camera film area at the percise film plane /
- since the the sensor is offset to one side - all the electronics will be offset in one drection unless you can make a jumper set for the sensor assembly -
10/08/2006 12:21:57 AM · #10
Well i thought i would try it all put together first if it didnt line up then ide have to just a jumper wire harness.
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