Your takes on self dq - DPChallenge Forums

10/04/2006 01:21:50 PM · #26

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

I'm sorry but I don't see being drunk as a better reason than not wanting to sit through something painfull to you. some people care about scores more than others why does that make those that don't care about them better? everyone has thier reasons why can't others respect those without talking down to them?

Quiters never win, and Winners never Quit.

If a person chooses to have their own image dqed for whatever reason they so choose. they quit. There is always exception to the rule. A night of stupidity (imo) while drinking and some unruly image is posted. Granted I tend to believe.. if the person did it.. it stays.. but I do have some compasion.

Granted, we shouldn't talk down to anyone... but in a world full of opinions.. thats just the way it sounds. If you want to pull an image for a low score in my opinion I think you are self absorbed and a quiter. If that is talking down to someone, than so be it. but doesn't stop from being my opinion.

I don't know how it works. Never used it and I don't plan on ever using it. But, there should be a place to leave a reason why you want a self dq. If the reason is low score. The sdq is denighed. Maybe that needs to be implemented.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

10/04/2006 01:33:57 PM · #27

Originally posted by littlegett:

I was a loser long ago then 'casue I quit doing drugs every day, I quit drinking 12 beers a day, I quit smoking after 20 years. I quit my job to get a better one twice. but wait quiting all those things made me a better more sucessfull person. knowing yourself and when to quit for your own reasons are what makes people great IMO.

Oh and I already admited I am self absorbed.

and why does some people's opinion that low scores can't be a reason trump everyone elses?

Message edited by author 2006-10-04 13:36:02.

hokie

Nikon D2X

10/04/2006 01:49:01 PM · #28

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

You may have a point about the last bit...As a photographer I probably don't care at all about your scores..especially if I don't care about mine. As a marketing person I do care about the scores just to see what the general population likes or doesn't like.

So...from a totally selfish point of view...I vote that everyone who wants to take their photo out of competition for any reason as often as they like..do it. :-D

But....if any of those same people are the ones that complain about not getting comments...Please take your pants off in public right now!

Rebecca

Nikon D80

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5- 5.6G ED DX

10/04/2006 01:53:33 PM · #29

[quote]and why does some people's opinion that low scores can't be a reason trump everyone elses?[/quote]

Well, displays of ego and vanity tend to be looked upon as bad form, so citing ego or vanity as a reason for a self-DQ is going to meet the same reaction.

littlegett

Canon EOS-20D

10/04/2006 02:00:03 PM · #30

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

I knew someone was going to say this and Take everything Totaly out of concept.... Why do some people have to be like this? IMO it is totaly uncalled for and rediculous. Im done with this topic, you turned it into a farse... so how bout you go pull all your images and be done with it. imo.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

10/04/2006 02:05:22 PM · #31

Originally posted by littlegett:

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

I was a loser long ago then 'casue I quit doing drugs every day, I quit drinking 12 beers a day, I quit smoking after 20 years. I quit my job to get a better one twice. but wait quiting all those things made me a better more sucessfull person. knowing yourself and when to quit for your own reasons are what makes people great IMO.

Oh and I already admited I am self absorbed.

and why does some people's opinion that low scores can't be a reason trump everyone elses?

I knew someone was going to say this and Take everything Totaly out of concept.... Why do some people have to be like this? IMO it is totaly uncalled for and rediculous. Im done with this topic, you turned it into a farse... so how bout you go pull all your images and be done with it. imo.

I turned it comical because I felt many people were attking my opinion and pretty much saying that I was a quiter and that I was wrong for pulling my image. and making the OP possibly feel bad for wanting to pull thiers.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

10/04/2006 02:06:49 PM · #32

The only thing I can't figure out is why it freakin' matters. If I want to pull MY image for ANY reason, what the heck does that have to do with you (not you, singular, you, plural)????

The OP asks for takes on self-dq. People are giving them. There are two sides to this story, equally valid, and not something that should be argued about, IMO.

It is an option. That means people can take it or leave it, and they shouldn't be judeged based on what they choose.

edited to correct grammar. see following quotes to seem my screw up.

Message edited by author 2006-10-04 14:29:45.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

10/04/2006 02:09:35 PM · #33

Originally posted by karmat:

this is my point all along. I hope I haven't given the idea that I am judging those that choose not to do it for what ever reason as thier right to not do it and reasons behind it are just as valid.

xianart

Canon EOS-7D

10/04/2006 02:10:57 PM · #34

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

it was a pretty good image, but i should never have submitted it. it was a time of extreme emotional angst (just scattering the ashed of both parents, if you really want to know), and i learned my lesson - don't drink and dpc!

so, i guess i'm saying, pulling an image just because it isn't doing well, well it's not for me. see my 'folio to check on that ;-)

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/04/2006 02:19:08 PM · #35

I suffered through at least three very low scores where I thought about self-DQ'ing, but I stuck with it. I was partially worried about getting DQ'd in the next 25 challenges for some reason.

Then I thought about it and said, "whatever". The self-DQ is there for you to use when you feel like it. It isn't breaking the rules. It isn't poor form. You don't need a consensus opinion that it's ok. If you don't want to suffer a low score; if you don't like the way you made the border; if you are mad at your girlfriend and it's her mug in the shot, you have every right to DQ the shot.

Who cares what other people think?

With that in mind I DQ'd a recent shot just because I didn't want to deal with it. The score was low for me and I didn't like it. There were also 0 comments at about 50-70 votes. I've never been DQ'd in almost 100 challenges, so why do I think it's going to be any different in the next 25?

Do what you want. Don't look for validation.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

10/04/2006 02:26:56 PM · #36

Originally posted by xianart:

Originally posted by Elvis_L:
I'm sorry but I don't see being drunk as a better reason than not wanting to sit through something painfull to you. some people care about scores more than others why does that make those that don't care dt them better? everyone has thier reasons why can't others respect those without talking down to them?

it was a pretty good image, but i should never have submitted it. it was a time of extreme emotional angst (just scattering the ashed of both parents, if you really want to know), and i learned my lesson - don't drink and dpc!

so, i guess i'm saying, pulling an image just because it isn't doing well, well it's not for me. see my 'folio to check on that ;-)

definantly not saying it wasn't valid just not more valid. we all have our own issues and reasons. that is one of the beauties of life.

kenskid

Nikon D700

10/04/2006 02:28:20 PM · #37

I would never self DQ because I was getting a low score. You submit a shot and take what it gets.

Self DQ for low score is bailing out big time! It would be like a football team leaving the field in the 3rd quarter because they were down 28 points.

STICK WITH IT MAN !!!!

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

10/04/2006 02:31:26 PM · #38

Originally posted by kenskid:

And thus my point. You wouldn't do it. Someone else would. What the heck does it matter? Each are equally valid, and legitimate paths to take.

Ken

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

10/04/2006 03:01:16 PM · #39

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by kenskid:
I would never self DQ because I was getting a low score. You submit a shot and take what it gets.

Self DQ for low score is bailing out big time! It would be like a football team leaving the field in the 3rd quarter because they were down 28 points.

STICK WITH IT MAN !!!!

And thus my point. You wouldn't do it. Someone else would. What the heck does it matter? Each are equally valid, and legitimate paths to take.

And if you ask for opinions in the forums, both will strongly come out.

I have been tempted too many times to self DQ a sucky shot. I have two going on right now. But they'll stay, I'll get over it, and I'll try again. But if somebody else does it, that's their option. The only problem I have with that is if it's late in the challenge and people took the time to comment.

hokie

Nikon D2X

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

10/04/2006 03:28:13 PM · #40

I'm not saying a self DQ is the kind of revealing comment that defines you as a human being..we all know that is determined by the type of tennis shoes you wear......:-/

Seriously though...if Self DQ wasn't seen as something less than desirable at DPC..there would not be such heavy penalties for doing it more than once over a certain period of time. So..to some extent..the site operators and moderators do frown on the activity.

Rhetorical question..what are those reasons?

Message edited by author 2006-10-04 15:28:55.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

10/04/2006 03:37:56 PM · #41

Originally posted by hokie:

Rhetorical question..what are those reasons?

do you want an answer to that?

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/04/2006 03:44:55 PM · #42

Originally posted by hokie:

Seriously though...if Self DQ wasn't seen as something less than desirable at DPC..

If it is so undesirable, why do they even have it?

fotomann_forever

10/04/2006 03:48:55 PM · #43

If everyone was able to self-DQ at will with no penalties, you'd see a LOT more of it and that would seriously eff up challenge stats.

kenskid

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

10/04/2006 05:06:32 PM · #44

If you can self DQ at will b/c your shot is floundering then why not just have a time table set up...say 72 hours. Any time before the 72 hours you can pull your photo with no penalty.

I'm sure you would see tons of pull outs....thus resulting in every remaining shot in the final challenge results scoring 6.8 and above !!!

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

10/04/2006 05:37:26 PM · #45

The only time I will ever self-DQ is when I sit on the copier machine and submit it to DPC, which I plan to do at the Office Xmas party this year...

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/04/2006 06:19:55 PM · #46

Originally posted by posthumous:

The only time I will ever self-DQ is when I sit on the copier machine and submit it to DPC, which I plan to do at the Office Xmas party this year...

I can't wait to see what the EXIF data says ...

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III