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09/27/2006 12:27:25 AM · #1


One positive comment and a 4.6000. I have a feeling it was just too dark, since it was post-processed while I was having calibration issues. I know the highlights are a bit darker than I intended and couldn't fix it by the time it came to my attention. But is there anything else that killed it for you? I'd love to get some good critical comments on this, as I thought the lines were very strong and somewhat clever since the lines lead to a sign which points you in a totally different direction.

FWIW, this is how it was supposed to look:

09/27/2006 12:34:07 AM · #2
The sign backed by the darkness of the underside of the freeway keeps your eyes there. In your outtake with the extra light on the beams puts toward the bottom corner but there's nothing there to keep your eyes on.

The signage looks like the main subject in both compositions.

Message edited by author 2006-09-27 00:36:18.
09/27/2006 12:46:18 AM · #3
hmmm I didn't get a chance to vote in this challenge...

The first one, the one you entered, looks fine on my monitor dark/light wise... the second looks too bright and a little pixelated in spots (like the beams, and the blue in the sign and in the sky). I also have been battling monitor calibration and though I'd finally sorted it out... There are also some jagged edges (very slight, I'm reaching here) along the the sign and the light pole- not sure if there was anything to be done about that anyway since it could have come from the compression/re-size... I guess that can also come from over-sharpening?

Compositinally the image is interesting, as the commenter and you noted with the direction of the lines. I'm guessing the lower score is attributed to general "wow" bias and people just weren't excited about underpasses? Not sure.
09/27/2006 01:21:33 AM · #4
I think monitor calibration is a conspiracy. It doesn't really exist.

This is a rant, not connected solely to this challenge and entirely unrelated to the desire for feedback:

It bothers me that anyone could vote a photo that obviously meets the challenge and isn't overwhelmingly horrible anything less than a 5. Everyone has their own scale and that's fine, but 89 votes of 4 and under on an okay photo that meets the challenge is just ridiculous. Heck, I would have waffled between 5 and 6 myself, in that it's an okay photo that meets the challenge, the extra point coming in if I decided that its originality was enough to override its flaws. It should have come in around a 5.3-5.4 - not great, but not so pissed on as it was, either. My voting average isn't high, but it isn't because I hand out a copious number of ones twos or threes, so it's rather useless to attack me for it in response to that comment. I used to be utterly disgusted if I got less than a 5.8. Now that same 5.8 will rarely score better than a 4.9. I think it's sad that the voting on this site has deevolved to a point where I'm quite ridiculously relieved just to see an entry break a 5.0.

My scale, for those looking for a rebuttal, because there's always someone:
1-3 are reserved for photos that don't meet the challenge. A 3 is an otherwise okay photo. 2 would be a bad photo that doesn't meet the challenge. 1 is a bad DNMC photo in bad taste or just born of sheer idiocy. You're obviously gunning for the brown, and I'll certainly help you there.
4 - could either be a photo that meets the challenge but has severe technical defects or a DNMC that is just otherwise outstanding.
5 - an okay photo that meets the challenge
6 - a slightly better photo that meets the challenge, or an okay photo with something clever about it which doesn't quite hit the target it was aiming for. I like to reward a creative idea.
7 - nice photo, good technicals, meets challenge, but just lacks the wow factor, or a nice photo with okay technicals that otherwise really nails the creative aspect of the challenge.
8 - anything with a wow factor that I want to see in a second pass
9 - bumped because it stands out from the field of 8s
10 - personal favorites

Okay, enough of this for tonight. I hope the rant didn't turn folks off. I'm not trying to be combative, but it is frustrating to go from being a 6.0 photographer to just praying to stay above a 5 when I know I'm improving by leaps and bounds. I do want feedback. Did anyone else find the lower left corner too distracting? Is the reedit really worse than the entry as faidoi has opined? Does my monitor need more work? Is the meaning of life really 42?
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