Experimenting with Tone Mapping - DPChallenge Forums

09/21/2006 01:58:47 PM · #51

Here is one:

And another:

original:

Also, for those asking I used the photomatix software on a single raw file...

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Tamron AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di II for Nikon

09/21/2006 02:58:19 PM · #52

Dleach, I like the umbrellas version you did. The haloing on the pillars shot bugs me, and the artificial looking sky. That issue with the sky is my biggest bete noir with this so far.

Steve, here's another version of tone mapping:

Added some edge darkening in PS, but that's all. I'm certainly aware these can be altered infinitely in PS, but what I'm playign with here is getting the parameters right straight from photomatix; it's a learning curve. And yes, I KNOW this is garish, it was always INTENDED to be garish from the moment I saw the scene and grabbed my camera :-)

Sometimes I'm a garish sort of guy.

I've just accomplished a KILLER tone-mapped scenic, but I'm saving it for free study...

R.

obsidian

Nikon D80

09/21/2006 03:25:17 PM · #53

Given that the dynamic range of the image/image composite is being pushed beyond the range normally experienced with monitors and prints I guess I would expect things to feel a little "garish" as the images are "more" than they should be.

Interesting thread and this is something that I feel I need to experiment with to see how some of my church interiors (and the canal bridge I shot the other week) would benefit from it.

Appreciate all of the insights and explanations here, too.

freakin_hilarious

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/21/2006 03:30:42 PM · #54

Another interesting page with some pics and a tutorial here.

09/21/2006 04:12:04 PM · #55

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Dleach, I like the umbrellas version you did. The haloing on the pillars shot bugs me, and the artificial looking sky. That issue with the sky is my biggest bete noir with this so far.

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The haloing also bugs me. I've noticed it in various pictures when playing with pixelmatic and I'm not sure what to tweak to avoid this.

But the sky was something I played with based on a tutorial on HDR that got me interested in the first place. It discussed dodge/burn on the sky to "help" it out. Also check out the tutorial pictures... nice pictures.

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

09/21/2006 04:19:21 PM · #56

I went through the tonemapping phase earlier this year. It is a lot of fun but it gets a bit boring after a while if you use it too much. You get some fun results with images but I find it is only something which gets you going through a phase of "wow look at this cool effect" and then it slowly it loses its flare.

I processed a lot of my Venice shots using tonemapping.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/21/2006 05:29:44 PM · #57

Originally posted by kiwiness:

The Master has spoken. I suppose it's time to move on? Or shall I buck his mighty tide and see what middle ground I can find?

One thing I know for certain: what I "see" when I look at something is rarely captured properly by "straight" photographic techniques. My eye has a much greater dynamic range than the medium does. I am actively seeking ways to mitigate the differences. At the moment, that means excessive PP, sure. But maybe, just maybe, I can find a way to a middle ground?

Those are some nice images, btw, Gary.

R.

patrinus

Canon EOS-30D

09/21/2006 07:08:00 PM · #58

Hey kiwiness, How did you shoot these photos? I can imagine a tripod and at least 3 exposures in all but in one (the one with the bird flying), so this leads me to think that instead you took a single RAW in each case and made 3 different exposures from the RAW file?. I just want to know if the richness seen in your photos can be obtained from a single shot (I cannot imagine shooting with a tripod 100% of the time)

Sigma 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF for Pentax

09/21/2006 07:13:43 PM · #59

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Pug-H

Pentax K10D

09/21/2006 07:55:17 PM · #60

Those photos by kiwiness remind of the quality of postcards you used to be able to get (maybe still) in those European countries. I always thought it was dodgy printing, myself. (Okay, I haven't been to Venice since I was 8 years old...)

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/21/2006 08:12:35 PM · #61

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Steve, here's another version of tone mapping:

Added some edge darkening in PS, but that's all. I'm certainly aware these can be altered infinitely in PS, but what I'm playign with here is getting the parameters right straight from photomatix; it's a learning curve. And yes, I KNOW this is garish, it was always INTENDED to be garish from the moment I saw the scene and grabbed my camera :-)

Sometimes I'm a garish sort of guy.

Nice... really nice! I like what you've done using Photomatrix. You mus be getting the parameters down. These tools are complicated and easy to screw up with. I looked at the giant Flickr collection and most of them suck big time, but you are doing a great job with it.

Tim

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

09/21/2006 09:12:48 PM · #62

I really don't like the colours in most of these photos - what would it look like if you took one of these photos blended it as a luminosity layer over the original? would that keep the colours a bit more natural?

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

09/21/2006 10:15:53 PM · #63

Originally posted by dr_timbo:

Nah, I'm setting my colors before I even GET to photomtatix. They don't HAVE to be cartoonish you know...

R.

pawdrix

Nikon D700

09/21/2006 10:23:38 PM · #64

Just to keep things in perspective, for The Bear, this image is pretty damn near a B&W, in the grand scheme of hyper color transcendence.

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Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

09/21/2006 10:28:30 PM · #65

Thanks, Steve. I needed that...

R.

pawdrix

Nikon D700

09/21/2006 10:34:07 PM · #66

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Thanks, Steve. I needed that...

R.

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dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

09/21/2006 11:31:48 PM · #67

Here are two renditions of the same image. First, normal conversion from raw followed by a small amount of photoshop work:

Then, tonight's version, coming out of Photomatix Pro. I still tweaked this one a bit in photoshop. For one thing, the red was way too red. But also, I wanted it lighter than what came out of PMP without losing the pretty blues of the sky. So I applied levels and curves but then used a gradient mask to avoid affecting the sky.

dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

09/22/2006 12:18:13 AM · #68

One more.... standard raw conversion plus photoshop:

And then with Photomatix Pro and HDR:

09/22/2006 01:51:50 AM · #69

dwterry, these are very nice with HDR

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX II

09/22/2006 06:08:35 AM · #70

Originally posted by patrinus:

Each is only one exposure taken in jpeg. There is no layering of photos and using dynamic range increase. Just a normal shot from the camera, changed to 16 Bit in Photoshop and aplying the Photomatix Tonemapping filter.

mtpp

Nikon D7000

09/22/2006 09:01:08 AM · #71

I just find this HDR and tone mapping "technique" fascinating. So I had to take a quick try at it.

Unprocessed NEF-file looked like this:

- converted it to 16-bit TIFF
- converted TIFF to Radiance RGBE (HDR)
- Tone Mapping
- little photoshopping

Here is the result:

Thanks Bear! I will play with this tone mapping technique whole weekend.

mtpp

Nikon D7000

Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX II

09/22/2006 03:54:53 PM · #72

Finally got my HDR software. Purchased FDRtools today.

This is my first try from two different exposures:

Originals:

MadMan2k

Sony Alpha a6400

Tamron 70-180mm F/2.8 Di III VXD

09/22/2006 04:51:55 PM · #73

I tried it out, here's a couple of mine:

I don't think I'd use it enough to buy the program, though...