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09/21/2006 10:09:35 AM · #126 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Having stepped away from DPC for a while, and now coming back, it became somewhat more evident on the stiffling limitations self imposed on voters with their preconcieved notion they are authorities on compositional techniques, creativity, etc. This "ignorance" and "narrow minded attitude" is contrary to the creative diversity within the challenges and leads many submittors to just "meet" clinical challenge requirements with little thought to adding soul to their submission. As I go forward with my photography I can see a clear seperation between the photos I needed to do versus the photos I am proud of. If submittors would pay less attention to what the masses want and more attention to what they wish to convey, the images within challenges would likely provoke more thoughtful voting and inspire the rest of us to break away from the blah. For me, this revelation has brought out my best work so far. Do we not pursue this hobby with the notion of sharing what we see or do we feelobligated to deliver what we think others want us to see? Just a thought. |
Well said. I've also just began entering challenges here again after a bit of a hiatus. After numerous unsatisfying results on photos I thought were well crafted, I realized that you really can't take voting personally (or seriously, for the most part) and you're exactly right—you most likely won't create a phenominal image when created for the masses. This site is a perfect study of the saying "you can't please all the people all the time" not only because of the narrow-minded and boundry-plagued critcism, but also because of the wide varity of subjective photographic preferences, techniques, genres and styles. Of course, when the people judging are vying for the same digital blue ribbon, scores are bound to lean toward the dredded 1's in effort to keep 6's in winning posisiton. So let's just have fun and learn instead—Make the images to communicate the stories you see. There is no other "you" in this world and no one will ever capture the same story with your perspective. Understanding that is worth more than a 10 to me. Thanks for you words of wisdom!
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09/21/2006 11:51:14 AM · #127 |
seems to me for this Leading Lines challenge there are a lot of voters and/or entrants who can't see leading lines unless it's a slap-you-in-the-face, perfectly-straight, hard-edged line (as in a road, railroad track or building). what too many aren't getting is that leading lines can be found almost everywhere you point your eyes (or camera). i just wish everyone was open-minded enough to see it.
i'll take my mediocre score (of a photo i'm very happy with) and get off my soap box now, thanks. LOL |
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09/21/2006 12:27:01 PM · #128 |
Votes: 88
Avg Vote: 4.8068
Comments: 6
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09/21/2006 12:27:28 PM · #129 |
Votes: 91
Views: 112
Avg Vote: 5.3956
Comments: 2
Not what I where I want it to be, but I like my shot. I'm getting ready to vote and am keeping an open mind as I go ;) |
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09/21/2006 06:14:50 PM · #130 |
Originally posted by Photonurd:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Having stepped away from DPC for a while, and now coming back, it became somewhat more evident on the stiffling limitations self imposed on voters with their preconcieved notion they are authorities on compositional techniques, creativity, etc. This "ignorance" and "narrow minded attitude" is contrary to the creative diversity within the challenges and leads many submittors to just "meet" clinical challenge requirements with little thought to adding soul to their submission. As I go forward with my photography I can see a clear seperation between the photos I needed to do versus the photos I am proud of. If submittors would pay less attention to what the masses want and more attention to what they wish to convey, the images within challenges would likely provoke more thoughtful voting and inspire the rest of us to break away from the blah. For me, this revelation has brought out my best work so far. Do we not pursue this hobby with the notion of sharing what we see or do we feelobligated to deliver what we think others want us to see? Just a thought. |
Well said. I've also just began entering challenges here again after a bit of a hiatus. After numerous unsatisfying results on photos I thought were well crafted, I realized that you really can't take voting personally (or seriously, for the most part) and you're exactly right—you most likely won't create a phenominal image when created for the masses. This site is a perfect study of the saying "you can't please all the people all the time" not only because of the narrow-minded and boundry-plagued critcism, but also because of the wide varity of subjective photographic preferences, techniques, genres and styles. Of course, when the people judging are vying for the same digital blue ribbon, scores are bound to lean toward the dredded 1's in effort to keep 6's in winning posisiton. So let's just have fun and learn instead—Make the images to communicate the stories you see. There is no other "you" in this world and no one will ever capture the same story with your perspective. Understanding that is worth more than a 10 to me. Thanks for you words of wisdom! |
that's what i'm talkin' about!!!!!! beautifully put :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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09/21/2006 06:56:53 PM · #131 |
Votes: 99
Views: 127
Avg Vote: 4.8283
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 09/21/06 06:52 pm
1 'i like it' comment and 1 'the lines are leading in the wrong direction' comment from a guy who has since donned the bag. |
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09/21/2006 07:12:40 PM · #132 |
Votes: 98
Views: 124
Avg Vote: 4.7653
Comments: 6
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09/21/2006 07:18:56 PM · #133 |
Votes: 107
Views: 144
Avg Vote: 6.4112
Comments: 11
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0
Plus 1 (or possibly more) validation requests. |
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09/21/2006 07:22:10 PM · #134 |
Votes: 95
Views: 133
Avg Vote: 5.8211
Comments: 3
Not much movement lately. |
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09/21/2006 08:35:22 PM · #135 |
Originally posted by Photonurd:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Having stepped away from DPC for a while, and now coming back, it became somewhat more evident on the stiffling limitations self imposed on voters with their preconcieved notion they are authorities on compositional techniques, creativity, etc. This "ignorance" and "narrow minded attitude" is contrary to the creative diversity within the challenges and leads many submittors to just "meet" clinical challenge requirements with little thought to adding soul to their submission. As I go forward with my photography I can see a clear seperation between the photos I needed to do versus the photos I am proud of. If submittors would pay less attention to what the masses want and more attention to what they wish to convey, the images within challenges would likely provoke more thoughtful voting and inspire the rest of us to break away from the blah. For me, this revelation has brought out my best work so far. Do we not pursue this hobby with the notion of sharing what we see or do we feelobligated to deliver what we think others want us to see? Just a thought. |
Well said. I've also just began entering challenges here again after a bit of a hiatus. After numerous unsatisfying results on photos I thought were well crafted, I realized that you really can't take voting personally (or seriously, for the most part) and you're exactly right—you most likely won't create a phenominal image when created for the masses. This site is a perfect study of the saying "you can't please all the people all the time" not only because of the narrow-minded and boundry-plagued critcism, but also because of the wide varity of subjective photographic preferences, techniques, genres and styles. Of course, when the people judging are vying for the same digital blue ribbon, scores are bound to lean toward the dredded 1's in effort to keep 6's in winning posisiton. So let's just have fun and learn instead—Make the images to communicate the stories you see. There is no other "you" in this world and no one will ever capture the same story with your perspective. Understanding that is worth more than a 10 to me. Thanks for you words of wisdom! |
Very well said and right on, a lot of voters only see an image in thier way, and take no interest in the photographers perspective,and if it dose'nt suit them tough, oopps there goes another 3' 2' 1'. |
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09/21/2006 08:36:24 PM · #136 |
Votes: 110
Views: 131
Avg Vote: 5.1818
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 09/21/06 08:10 pm
At least I knew it was a bad photo when I submitted it |
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09/21/2006 08:36:51 PM · #137 |
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09/21/2006 09:17:22 PM · #138 |
This will likely be my 2nd worst score ever. I have an idea why but comments would be helpful. The one, yes one, comment I have is a positive one. Sigh.
Votes: 96
Views: 120
Avg Vote: 4.4271
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 09/21/06 09:10 pm |
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09/21/2006 09:23:09 PM · #139 |
Votes: 92
Views: 117
Avg Vote: 5.4348
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Not alot of voting happenning this evening. Hasn't moved much today. |
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09/21/2006 09:24:44 PM · #140 |
Votes: 101
Views: 131
Avg Vote: 4.7921
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 09/21/06 09:23 pm
The chute didn't open. |
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09/21/2006 09:26:24 PM · #141 |
Votes: 112
Views: 144
Avg Vote: 5.6607
Comments: 5
It's definitely a PB, by far. But I was hoping for a bit higher. Oh well!
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09/21/2006 09:39:07 PM · #142 |
Originally posted by kudzu:
Votes: 40
Avg Vote: 4.5500
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Votes: 107
Views: 131
Avg Vote: 4.6449
Comments: 2
not much more than a half decent poker hand at the moment...
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09/22/2006 06:23:06 AM · #143 |
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Message edited by author 2007-05-03 07:05:31. |
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09/22/2006 06:51:00 AM · #144 |
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Avg Vote: 6.5333
Comments: 5
Favorites: 1 |
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09/22/2006 08:09:06 AM · #145 |
Originally posted by kashi:
Votes: 98
Views: 124
Avg Vote: 4.7653
Comments: 6 |
Votes: 109
Views: 137
Avg Vote: 4.8073
Comments: 6
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09/22/2006 09:12:39 AM · #146 |
Votes: 120
Views: 160
Avg Vote: 5.9833
Comments: 8
I hope it goes over six |
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09/22/2006 09:13:51 AM · #147 |
Originally posted by SkyNevada:
Holy Mackrell - Are there some great photos in this challenge or what! Great job to everyone in advance...thanks and good luck with your scores... |
I agree. I was amazed at how many really high scores I had to give out.
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09/22/2006 10:06:45 AM · #148 |
Originally posted by gooc:
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Avg Vote: 6.5333
Comments: 5
Favorites: 1 |
Great score and surely a PB! |
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09/22/2006 10:12:18 AM · #149 |
Votes: 112
Views: 146
Avg Vote: 4.7411
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 09/22/06 10:11 am |
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09/22/2006 11:56:05 AM · #150 |
My first 6!!!!!!
Votes: 122
Views: 163
Avg Vote: 6.0000
Comments: 8
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