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09/18/2006 10:47:25 PM · #1 |
There is a wildfire to the west of me and at sundown the Sun would appear red through the smoke and to the eye.
When I tried to capture it with my Canon D20 the Sun came out off white or white. The red was lost and the grey smoke turned red. I tried to simulate the colors I saw in that panel to the left.
The settings were: 1/500 sec - f7.1 - ap 100 - focal 210mm - auto focus - no filters.
What do I need to do to capture the red Sun image that would match what my eyes viewed?
All tips will be considered.
Thanks for your help in advance. |
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09/18/2006 10:48:33 PM · #2 |
| Hey, I have the same question...LOL...we were out taking pics at the same time... |
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09/18/2006 10:48:46 PM · #3 |
| You are starring at the sun? |
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09/18/2006 11:08:32 PM · #4 |
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09/18/2006 11:11:43 PM · #5 |
| It's white because it is overexposed. You need to expose for the sun itself if you can get a high enough shutter speed/aperture to keep it from overexposing (good luck). Filters would help dim the sun portion of the shot while letting you get a decent exposure (and detail) on the foreground of the scene. Depends how bright the sun is though even through the smoke, the overall dynamic range of the scene may simply be beyond the limits of your gear. |
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09/18/2006 11:12:54 PM · #6 |
| What router said. You need to either stop down more or go with a faster shutter. Underexposing a shot like this is better than overexposing. |
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09/18/2006 11:16:06 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by fulgent:
What do I need to do to capture the red Sun image that would match what my eyes viewed?
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About 5 more stops of dynamic range (a bit over-exagerated). Unfortunately this is going to be a hard shot to capture and at best the results will be a compromise. Study a bit about the Zone system to find out how to do this.
And maybe Bear_music will be along soon to help.
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_system
Message edited by author 2006-09-18 23:18:48.
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09/18/2006 11:18:26 PM · #8 |
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09/18/2006 11:20:23 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by crayon:
HDR |
Yeah, probably so. If done quickly before the sun and smoke moves too much.
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09/18/2006 11:23:45 PM · #10 |
That's a tough shoot, Stop down or ND filter and you won't catch the colors that you saw... I think no matter what you do (pardon the pun) the sun will always come out hot.
October 2003 San Diego Wildfires
I want to capture the sun, the flag on my porch and the color of the sky. Lost the sun, as you can seen.
Found it better to put the sun behind something
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09/18/2006 11:25:44 PM · #11 |
I think you are looking at the wrong camera settings, you need to be looking at your white balance.
I'm sure you are setting your camera to direct sunlight or auto at 5600 degrees Calvin. Maybe if you tried floresnt @ 4500 degrees, or tungsten @ 3200 degrees it will work.I know that the sunlight setting in florescent light turns the picture green, and the sunlight setting in tungsten light turns the picture yellow.Greens complimentary color is magenta, and yellows complimentary color is blue. SOO, I think the florescent setting would work the best.
You might also want to bring a tripod so you can get two exact shots. One exposing for the sun, and one exposing for the sky. Because the sun will obviously need to be darker than what you have to get the lighting you want.
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09/18/2006 11:31:57 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by crayon:
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Yeah, probably so. If done quickly before the sun and smoke moves too much. |
The best way to do this is to shoot in manual mode. Start with the camera's metered reading and take several shotd under and over exposed.
I'd go one shot "correct" exposure and two shots (one stop each by changing shutter speed) above AND below metered exposure.
If you are using Photoshop CS2, it's simple to put them together with the HDR function. If notm a few stand-alone apps can help.
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09/18/2006 11:53:26 PM · #13 |
| What's HDR? I don't have CS2. |
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09/19/2006 12:00:20 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by breadfan35:
What's HDR? I don't have CS2. |
HDR stands for High Dynamic Range. It is combining multiple exposures to increase the exposure lattitude or dynamic range of a photo. It allows you to capture high contrast images with more detail than a single exposure.
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