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09/18/2006 09:28:56 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by jrjr:
Originally posted by kudzu:
ok... so i took the liberty of having some fun with the original. since i didn't like the processing, i figured it was only fair i throw up my own take at it so  jrjr can get his revenge...
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not much done to it... clarify, hue/sat, usm...
but i will say this, the photo would not have ribboned w/o the processing that was done...
and jrjr, if you wanna take revenge on one of my pics, feel free to pm me and i'll send you an orignal... ;) |
Hey I like it!Maybe I will take you up on your offer- could be fun. This thread has been great fun. Boy, some people take this stuff soooo seriously. Me? I'm just here to have fun and develop my favorite pastime. My recommendation to everyone: "Relax. Have Fun. If this hobby doesn't calm you, maybe you need a new hobby". kudzu- thanks for your effort and input. |
I like what Kudzu did, in fact I would have voted it much higher.
jrjr, you're a good sport. I hope you understand why I started the thread.
I too try not to take this stuff too seriously. I just thought it strange that some images get totally beat up for too much PP and yours somehow benefits from extreme over processing.
Again, congrats on our ribbon. I am of the belief that every image gets the right score. I just wonder sometimes when I am way off from the rest of the crowd.
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09/18/2006 09:30:00 PM · #27 |
scarbrd, can you please show us the original? I'd be very interested in just seeing the composition, and the photograph, for what it is. Thanks.
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09/18/2006 09:31:23 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by nfessel:
scarbrd, can you please show us the original? I'd be very interested in just seeing the composition, and the photograph, for what it is. Thanks. |
the image is jrjr's, I'm just the skeptic! ;-)
The original was posted earlier in this thread.
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09/18/2006 09:32:28 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Originally posted by nfessel:
scarbrd, can you please show us the original? I'd be very interested in just seeing the composition, and the photograph, for what it is. Thanks. |
the image is jrjr's, I'm just the skeptic! ;-)
The original was posted earlier in this thread. |
lol, the skeptic. oh darn, sorry for the mixup. :) |
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09/18/2006 09:37:17 PM · #30 |
OK Let's have some fun.
Is this 7.51 BLUE Ribbon Winner post-processed enough? Or could it use more? (Tongue in cheek) |
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09/18/2006 09:40:11 PM · #31 |
| But it looks goood... >.> lol |
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09/18/2006 09:44:38 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by jrjr:
OK Let's have some fun.
Is this 7.51 BLUE Ribbon Winner post-processed enough? Or could it use more? (Tongue in cheek) |
Post-process it so much that it is just all black. That would be so awesome. Someone do it. :) (tongue-in-cheek) |
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09/18/2006 09:46:40 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by jrjr:
OK Let's have some fun.
Is this 7.51 BLUE Ribbon Winner post-processed enough? Or could it use more? (Tongue in cheek) |
I like the grain in this. It reminds me of film grain, and I like grain in images, especially when done well and with the right image, like this one, it works. |
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09/18/2006 09:54:25 PM · #34 |
| I gave it an 8 - very processed but not over IMHO |
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09/18/2006 10:03:57 PM · #35 |
Well that entry of Joey's was for the Image Grain challenge hence the grain. Although that aside that's hardly one of his best editing jobs, IMO. That's saying a lot since it scored a whopping 7.5.
Message edited by author 2006-09-18 22:04:35. |
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09/18/2006 10:40:59 PM · #36 |
I've been studying a lot of what makes images score well here. It's not exactly the same thing that helps my business, but some aspects do help.
The image you are looking at, while some see it as over-processed is quite simple and quite good as an image. Yes, it does look a bit painterly, but is that a BAD thing? It scored well, so obviously not, at least at DPC.
DPC is just like any other client. The more you know about your client, the more likely you are to make a sale (or ribbon). Since I have been studying aspects of DPC success, my scores have increased quite a bit. Not because my photography has gotten better, but because my understanding of the "client" has become better.
In this case the photog, did a good job of selling a good photo to the client.
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09/18/2006 10:44:44 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by jrjr:
OK Let's have some fun.
Is this 7.51 BLUE Ribbon Winner post-processed enough? Or could it use more? (Tongue in cheek) |
Well, since you brought it up . . . . ;-)
I was wondering how many people saw jrjr's image and THOUGHT it was Joey's due to the processing style.
I bought Joey's video as did many others (I think we paid for his 5D!)
Frankly I thought jrjr's was over processed even by Joey standards. I can picture Joey coming across jrjr's image and saying, "Whoa, back off the post processing, dude!"
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09/18/2006 11:29:16 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by jrjr:
Boy, some people take this stuff soooo seriously. Me? I'm just here to have fun and develop my favorite pastime. My recommendation to everyone: "Relax. Have Fun. If this hobby doesn't calm you, maybe you need a new hobby". |
If this is directed at me, than you are both right and wrong at the same time. You are right, because I *do* take photography very seriously, even though it is my hobby (a lot more seriously than the client/producer metaphore quite popular here at the DPC, which can, at best, help one produce commodity/stock images). You are wrong because you think that I am excited and need to calm down. :) |
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09/19/2006 01:06:30 AM · #39 |
I won't oooh and ahhhh over your submission Jim.
The composition, subject and focal point is and was, first-rate, but that's where I stop.
I think somewhere between the original and your submission, in my opinion, would have looked far better.
This is NOT a dig on your submision by any means, and do congratulate you on your first red ribbon.
I hope this doesn't come off sounding wrong, just my honest opinion.
Message edited by author 2006-09-19 02:45:16. |
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09/19/2006 01:35:44 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by jrjr:
OK Let's have some fun.
Is this 7.51 BLUE Ribbon Winner post-processed enough? Or could it use more? (Tongue in cheek) |
I think the bulk of the discord regarding your image relates not simply to the quantity of post-processing, but to the quality of it. I'm sure the ribbon more than makes up for this post-challenge negativity, but the processing does appear a little haphazard or, in the words of one of the commenters, 'clumsy'.
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09/19/2006 06:26:10 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by BradP:
I won't oooh and ahhhh over your submission Jim.
The composition, subject and focal point is and was, first-rate, but that's where I stop.
I think somewhere between the original and your submission, in my opinion, would have looked far better.
This is NOT a dig on your submision by any means, and do congratulate you on your first red ribbon.
I hope this doesn't come off sounding wrong, just my honest opinion. |
Hey- BradP: You do not have to tip-toe around my feelings. I am quite amused at the whole ordeal. I do appreciate your analysis of the composition and your analysis of my PP. This is my hobby, not my life. The ribbon is fun but not what I am here for. I am here to learn from people like you, the "Icelanders", Joey and the other members of the talented "Teenage" Gang and from everyone else. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
--jrjr |
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09/30/2006 05:25:07 AM · #42 |
At first glance the photo really can be striking. If you stare at it and look at it the more you see it is way over processed. I at first said "wow that is cool" the more I looked "wow that is processed".
Granted photos are great to be able to stare at and stare at more that is when I think they have the most impact.
I think it is a great photo, overdone to my taste as obviously to many other peoples tastes but I don't think people were picking apart pixels while voting and worried about the massive processing. Just my 2 cents. |
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09/30/2006 06:14:38 AM · #43 |
After viewing the challenge entry side by side with the original, I wonder how this image passed review. None of the 'effects' or 'elements' that make this one to look at on the challenge entry are not present in the original. In fact, outside of the shape of the tree, they are two totally different photos.
Message edited by author 2006-09-30 06:16:44. |
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