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09/17/2006 02:18:40 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by yann:
You tried starting it before drying it?? That's something.
At least now you know electronic doesn't work with water. But you learned it the hard way, that sucks. |
Well, i did wait till it was pretty dry but i presume the insides were still a little damp.
Does anyone think canon can help if it still has problems?? |
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09/17/2006 02:20:15 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by jimika:
Does anyone think canon can help if it still has problems?? |
They can help... but it'd probably be a pretty costly repair. Probably costing more than buying a used 20D.
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09/17/2006 02:28:14 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by jimika:
Does anyone think canon can help if it still has problems?? |
They can help... but it'd probably be a pretty costly repair. Probably costing more than buying a used 20D. |
It may be worth asking. I've got the Meter display working and can adjust the WB, ISO, App, Shutt, Meter, etc etc and the flash opens. The auto focus. The problem is it wont Auto Focus or fire.
At least the viewfinder is clear again. lol |
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09/17/2006 02:41:25 PM · #29 |
Warehouse Express are doing 30D's for £750 with a free memory card, can anyone find any cheaper?
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09/17/2006 02:46:11 PM · #30 |
I used to be an electronics engineer and have done a few repairs in my time. Whenever anything like this happens the rule is simple - pull the batteries out immediately and don’t even think about putting them back ‘till it is completely dry. Rinsing with distilled water is a good idea if the water it fell into was dirty or salty, otherwise I’d suggest leaving it alone. Open all compartments and remove everything that can be removed and leave the item in a warm place for at least a week. The suggestion by Bear_Music, to place it in a large airtight container with lots of silica gel is a good one. When you are sure there is no moisture left put the batteries in and give it a try. If it still doesn’t work take the batteries out straight away and leave it another week. Be patient there is a very good chance that water will not kill it – the rocks might have though!
Edit for typos
Message edited by author 2006-09-17 14:47:15. |
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09/17/2006 02:51:46 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by jimika:
Warehouse Express are doing 30D's for £750 with a free memory card, can anyone find any cheaper? |
From Camera Canada, a similar deal...
//www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/Product.asp?pid=1234B005&type=1 |
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09/17/2006 03:00:00 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by zardoz:
I used to be an electronics engineer and have done a few repairs in my time. Whenever anything like this happens the rule is simple - pull the batteries out immediately and don’t even think about putting them back ‘till it is completely dry. Rinsing with distilled water is a good idea if the water it fell into was dirty or salty, otherwise I’d suggest leaving it alone. Open all compartments and remove everything that can be removed and leave the item in a warm place for at least a week. The suggestion by Bear_Music, to place it in a large airtight container with lots of silica gel is a good one. When you are sure there is no moisture left put the batteries in and give it a try. If it still doesn’t work take the batteries out straight away and leave it another week. Be patient there is a very good chance that water will not kill it – the rocks might have though!
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OK i'll hold off till next week. I'll use the college Nikons for now. If it's still no good i'm getting the 30d.
THANKS |
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09/17/2006 03:02:37 PM · #33 |
Good they are coming down in price everywhere. Must be cos of the 400D.
Is anyone expecting a 30D replacement to arrive? |
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09/17/2006 03:22:26 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by jimika:
Good they are coming down in price everywhere. Must be cos of the 400D.
Is anyone expecting a 30D replacement to arrive? |
The rumour mill suggests so, though I'm not completely convinced. The 30D is, after all, fairly new itself -
//asia.cnet.com/reviews/digitalcameras/ontheradar/0,39051887,39434066,00.htm
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09/17/2006 03:40:24 PM · #35 |
It could be true, there is a big sensor in those 400d's compared to the 30d and I'm pretty interested in the anti dust function. Not that my 20D has any dust in it (now it's been double dipped lol) |
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09/17/2006 03:46:13 PM · #36 |
I thought I̢۪d add a little more to this thread as I have read many times about people dropping cameras and other electronic stuff in water. If you know what to do before the event then there is a good chance you can save the equipment:
Pull out the batteries immediately! Don’t fiddle with it first, don’t touch anything, don’t even turn it off! Water does not kill electronic equipment, electricity kills electronic equipment. When the item gets wet electricity can flow in ways the designer did not intend and that is what will kill it, not the water. Hence – get the batteries out fast!
Once the batteries are out the time pressure is off. Dry the outside of the item with the most absorbent thing to hand. Don̢۪t shake it dry, you will only help to drive the water further into the equipment. Don̢۪t press any buttons or open any compartments until the outside is dry.
With the outside dry, open all compartments and remove all accessories etc. Dry inside with a paper towel and press each button several times with a wad of paper towel to soak up any expelled water.
Now you must decide if you need to wash it. Salt water is highly corrosive and conductive. It will leave salt deposits behind when it evaporates. Salt is hydroscopic, that is it to say it absorbs moisture very easily and any deposits will cause all kinds of problems. It must be washed away with distilled water or just fresh water if distilled is not available. Fresh but dirty water is less of a problem. Unless the water was particularly dirty I would suggest not washing the item as you are likely to just drive the dirt further in.
Once you have removed all traces of water you will need to let the internals of the item dry out. This takes time :-( Don’t be tempted to put it in the oven – bad idea! Just put it in a warm, dry place and wait. If you can get hold of lots of silica gel (desiccant) then put it with the item in a large airtight container. It must be airtight or you will be trying to dry out the whole planet which could take longer than expected. Remove the silica gel daily and dry it in the oven.
Silica gel is ideal as it will tell you when the item is dry. Once the gel stops turning pink all the time there is no more moisture left in the container and hence the item. Without gel you are just going to have to guess. Give it a week or so then try it. If it doesn̢۪t work take the batteries out and give it another week.
Water it self is harmless to electronic equipment. It is contaminates in the water and electricity flowing through the water that do the harm. If you can get the batteries out fast and any dirt the electronics will likely be ok. The mechanics in a camera are more likely to suffer from the effects of water than the electronics.
I hope this helps someone one day!
Mike
PSâ€Â¦ This applies to battery equipment only! Don’t even think about doing any of these things with mains powered equipment. If it is mains powered, keep well away from the water, make certain your hands are dry then shut off the supply at the furthest point, eg the fuse box. Now lament the error of your ways, then remove the plug from the outlet, smash the mains plug and throw the item away!
Message edited by author 2007-06-23 18:46:55. |
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09/19/2006 11:13:36 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by zardoz:
Pull out the batteries immediately! Don’t fiddle with it first, don’t touch anything, don’t even turn it off! Water does not kill electronic equipment, electricity kills electronic equipment. When the item gets wet electricity can flow in ways the designer did not intend and that is what will kill it, not the water. Hence – get the batteries out fast!
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Yip. Any dissolved salts or stuff in the water will make it conduct electricity, to places that are very sensitive. If you pull the batteries out their is nothing to conduct, and thus no harm can be done. |
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