Capture One preview not what I get in Photoshop

09/14/2006 02:59:16 AM · #1

Hey all.. long time, no see.. a lot of new faces around here. I've been kind of in a photography slump for awhile now.. I put down the camera for almost a year, but am now starting to get back into it.

Anyway, I'll cut to the chase. I think I recall having this problem before as well, but it was never a big deal to me until now. I've been using Capture One to process my RAW files before importing them to Photoshop.. and when I do, there is sometimes an extremely noticeable difference (always flattened out, or basically a reduction) in the photo's colors, contrast, sharpening, etc. I used to overlook this because I could get back to where I wanted it with some simple manipulation in PS, but this time I'm finding it quite difficult.

I have my workspace in Photoshop set up for Adobe RGB, and the output format in Capture One is Adobe RGB.. so I really don't know what else could be the cause of this. Anybody else experienced this, or have any possible solutions?

Message edited by author 2006-09-14 03:11:11.

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

09/14/2006 02:59:30 PM · #2

bump?

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

09/14/2006 03:03:28 PM · #3

In what format are you exporting? To what version of Photoshop? If you are sending them on as RAW files to CS2 then you're probably exporting the unaltered RAW file. Try exporting as a TIFF and see if that cleans it up.

R.

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

09/14/2006 03:42:15 PM · #4

Hmm.. well, the file is definitely altered, because if I dial up the saturation to an extreme value I end up with a heavily saturated image in Photoshop (though different than how it was in Capture One). And the file format I'm exporting in is already TIFF, so that's not the problem either. Any other ideas?

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

09/14/2006 03:44:45 PM · #5

No ideas... Not a problem I ever have had.

R.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/14/2006 04:49:26 PM · #6

You may be converting from 16-bit RAW to an 8-bit TIFF. Check your conversion settings or prefs in Photoshop. Note that you will have to perform this step "eventually" for any file you plan to save for the web.

spydr

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 200-400mm f/4.0G IF-ED

09/14/2006 05:15:54 PM · #7

Not sure, but is it posssible that Capture and PS are using different monitor profiles?

Adobe usually uses "Adobe Gamma". However, Windows and Capture might now be using it.

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

09/14/2006 05:27:41 PM · #8

Just an idea, but ... the PS RAW convertion utility makes automatic adjustments, and they show up even in the little preview images. Capture doesn't, it's fully manual.

I've used both, and if you make similar adjustments you get similar results. If not, well, then you don't. I find the auto-adjutments quite annoying, but they sometimes are a good starting point.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

09/15/2006 02:56:06 AM · #9

Thanks for all of the ideas guys. The 16-->8 bit doesn't seem to be too big of an issue, though I tried converting to a 16 bit TIFF just to see.. and it seemed like there was a small difference - but that may have just been the placebo effect as well.

I then changed the monitor color profile in C1 to Adobe RGB, and that basically solved the issue. The images still appear very slightly different, but I have a feeling that may simply be because the C1 picture shows against a dark background and PS has a lighter background.

As for the RAW previews, that is definitely true that PS is automatic.. which, I agree, can be good or bad. But this time I was comparing what the product looked like after editing in C1 with what it looked like once it was opened in PS (the TIFF).

Thanks again for all of the advice! It appears the monitor color profile was the issue.. which was right in front of my eyes, but I probably wouldn't have guessed that anytime soon!

Message edited by author 2006-09-15 02:56:23.

TechnoShroom

Canon EOS-30D

09/15/2006 03:59:07 AM · #10

Originally posted by brianlh:

...but I have a feeling that may simply be because the C1 picture shows against a dark background and PS has a lighter background.

As for the RAW previews, that is definitely true that PS is automatic..

In Bridge you can change the background anywhere between black and white, it's under Preferences > General.

For Photoshop you would change the Application Background under Window's Display Properties > Appearance > Advanced > Application Background. This is a global change though and will affect many programs. If you want to just change the color around the image (for example you've maximized the image in PS and there is the standard gray background around it you can select any foreground color then select the paint bucket tool and shift+click that gray background to make it the color of your choice.

Bridge need not use automatic settings for RAW images and most people turn the auto adjustments off.

Sounds like you haven't turned them off so you would need to open a RAW image, de-select all the auto boxes or hit Ctrl+U (which toggles them) and then click the right facing arrow beside the Settings drop down and under the histogram to bring up the ACR menu. Select "Save New Camera Raw Defaults". Close the image. ACR will now not apply the auto adjustments.

Alternately you could open the RAW image, de-select all the auto boxes or hit Ctrl+U and instead of saving this as the default for all use the ACR menu and select "Save Settings...". Name this something like "NO AUTO" and close the image. Then you can apply this to individual thumbnails by right clicking them and selecting "NO AUTO" or whatever you named the setting from the context menu.