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09/09/2006 10:47:28 PM · #1 |
I'm still pretty new to this site, and recently became a member... I love this site, its not only entertaining for me, as I admire looking at other peoples sense of art... but its a lot of fun to play various forum games, and discuss results as they come in...
The past couple weeks have been sort of disappointing and confusing to me... maybe its the moon... but I feel like every time a challenge vote begins people get ridiculously harsh... I have no problem with criticism... thats pretty much the reason why I joined... I wanted to learn... but i feel like people are thinking we are all professionals on this site... yes... there are NUMEROUS photographers on this site that are amazing... that shoot so well that if they arent professionals already, they should be... and there are some that are actual professionals... which is great... i hope to learn from them... but people need to realize that not everyone on here is a professional, and there are a lot of us who are beginners, learning, and having a fun time just shooting pictures because its a hobby or a passion... we may not have specific techniques down, or full understanding on how to shoot pictures like the professionals, but we will learn... we want to learn!!
Please have a little mercy on everyone here... instead of just saying "people obviously dont know what they are doing with this challenge" try helping the person understand why you THINK it doesnt work... and just remember... just because you dont like it... doesnt mean its bad or wrong...
I personally dont like Picasso... but I know many others who do!!! |
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09/09/2006 10:51:50 PM · #2 |
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09/09/2006 10:53:22 PM · #3 |
Very good post - something I think has been forgotten by many voters lately. Sure, you can vote anyway you like, and sure you will probably give photos you like (for whatever reason) higher scores than those you don't.
BUT consider yourself a judge - you may not like the defendent or the presoecuting attorney, but that does not matter. Judge the case on the merits.
So when you see an image base your vote on more than initial appeal! How about weighting your vote - some for meeting the challenge (or not), some for technical (exposure, sizing, sharpening, etc), some for artistic merit (angle shot, composition, etc) and also some for it's appeal to you.
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09/09/2006 10:58:14 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Very good post - something I think has been forgotten by many voters lately. Sure, you can vote anyway you like, and sure you will probably give photos you like (for whatever reason) higher scores than those you don't.
BUT consider yourself a judge - you may not like the defendent or the presoecuting attorney, but that does not matter. Judge the case on the merits.
So when you see an image base your vote on more than initial appeal! How about weighting your vote - some for meeting the challenge (or not), some for technical (exposure, sizing, sharpening, etc), some for artistic merit (angle shot, composition, etc) and also some for it's appeal to you. |
definitely... thank you... |
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09/09/2006 11:26:27 PM · #5 |
I think sometimes it contributes to this type of thing because people don't know the level of the photographer when they're commenting. It can be really helpful to make posts afterwards and say, okay, voters told me they didn't like the flagpole, but why? (Example taken from comments made on this entry of mine - see the last (top) comment for the "why".) Or any specific question that tailors the responses to your skill level.. like, "how would you make this shot better if you only have such and such a lighting setup?"
I think as long as people are careful to *not* call out any specific comment/commenter, or act as if they are whining about a score (even when people aren't, sometimes it can definitely come across that way) then it can be a great way to get extra feedback beyond what happens during voting. |
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09/10/2006 10:00:58 AM · #6 |
lstover, I completely agree... i think the only way we can learn is by asking questions and asking how? or why...
 atupdate has been like a mentor for me on this website. He comments on all my photos after the challenges to tell me ways I could improve the photograph or different ways to look at things... I am sooo greatful that he is hear as i have learned so much.
I want to make sure everyone knows I am not complaining about my scores or my comments... i just noticed a discussion in a forum that made it sound like people expected professional level photography from everyone, and I felt the need to remind them that not all of us are...
Thanks!!! :-) |
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