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09/07/2006 08:51:12 AM · #76 |
I see ergo isn't alone in his low opinion of Steve Irwin or in his being condemned for it.
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09/07/2006 09:30:16 AM · #77 |
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She may be loathed right now by the land down under and the UK, but at least she has the guts to speak her mind, be it publically accepted or not. I also don't think she would commit journalistic suicide by releasing unfounded info.
To compare Mr. Irwin to Princess Diana, as some people are doing, is a nuts in my opinion. Next there will be what - pilgrimmages to walk across Australia to set foot on a beach that he may have walked upon, and are people gonna' see his face in places like tree bark and such?
Yes, it's a shame he died. He left a mark on the world, and died doing what he loved. We should all be so lucky.
When you play with fire, someday you will get burned, but, nobody should not be allowed the right to think what they want, and say what they want. Hitler already tried that.
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09/07/2006 11:11:38 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by BradP:
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Note that most all of those comments at the end of the article are personal attacks. People can't argue their opinion so they feel the need to call her names or tear down her character...
I guess from now on when someone disagrees with me my response will simply be "well you are just stupid, I'm right and you are wrong" then I can walk away feeling good about myself. It'll make disagreements so much easier :)
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09/07/2006 12:46:03 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by BradP:
To compare Mr. Irwin to Princess Diana, as some people are doing, is a nuts in my opinion. |
I think that the relevant comparison is that both deaths appear to have affected a proportion of the public so that they act as if a family member has died, and everyone must tiptoe around them accordingly.
Diana was hardly faultless, but in the weeks following her death people were afraid to do anything for fear of showing a "lack of respect" - to the extent that tv and radio was pretty much 24 hour praise for Diana and muted music on every channel for 10 days, for fear of showing a "lack of respect". Any failure to comply was shot down by the "show some respect" crowd.
Weird.
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09/07/2006 12:57:48 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by legalbeagle:
Originally posted by BradP:
To compare Mr. Irwin to Princess Diana, as some people are doing, is a nuts in my opinion. |
I think that the relevant comparison is that both deaths appear to have affected a proportion of the public so that they act as if a family member has died, and everyone must tiptoe around them accordingly.
Diana was hardly faultless, but in the weeks following her death people were afraid to do anything for fear of showing a "lack of respect" - to the extent that tv and radio was pretty much 24 hour praise for Diana and muted music on every channel for 10 days, for fear of showing a "lack of respect". Any failure to comply was shot down by the "show some respect" crowd.
Weird. |
Agree with your point about how people are but I would not consider it wierd. It is human compassion. As far as why tv and radio do what they do is for ratings. Being a business they are going to go with what is going to draw the biggest market or crowd. So to recap is it wierd I would not say wierd. |
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09/07/2006 01:06:16 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by coronamv:
Agree with your point about how people are but I would not consider it wierd. It is human compassion. |
I think it is more herd mentality than some instinctual outpouring of compassion or grief. If Irwin didn't have a TV show, no one would have been commenting. I'll say again, where are all the threads mourning the loss of
California State Trooper Joseph Longobardo
The motorcyclist who died in Parma, NY
24 Iraqis
A guy two blocks from me
A lady my wife works with
...all of whom died the same day and all of whom made an impact on the world no more or less tangible than the Crocodile Hunter. Irwin's situation is just celebrity worship of a darker color. |
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09/07/2006 10:22:08 PM · #82 |
I guess it is more if a familiarity issue. People tend to identify with celebrities. I would say most are more shocked than in grief. You grow up beleiving your idols are invinsable. Then as you get older they start to die. Which is a sad part of life. Think about how many people someone like Steve Irwin, Jock Cousteo or any other celebrity touched in some way that may have been the deciding factor in a carear path or life mission. I beleive this is why these people are made to be bigger than life. Not that they did anything more than anyone else in their proffesion but they brought it to the forfront. You may not like a picasso painting or sculpture but you should respect what he did for art.
And so should:
California State Trooper Joseph Longobardo
The motorcyclist who died in Parma, NY
24 Iraqis
A guy two blocks from me
A lady my wife works with
Be respected also.
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