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09/05/2006 12:17:22 AM · #1 |
Originally posted by vxpra:
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
Pentax is cool IMO, they have some sweet telephotos and the zoom fisheye is nice. It's a shame they don't have a pro digital body, or some pros would be shooting Pentax to use the lenses. |
The 10MP K10D is on the way. They are also supposed to have a 12MP coming along next year with Pro features, plus the 645 Digital is finally due out this year.
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This thread was moved to here because it lost the original focus from the other thread.
I'm just curious, but what "Pro" features are missing from the Pentax K100D?
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09/05/2006 12:22:12 AM · #2 |
Decent FPS, metal body, weather sealing, simultaneous CF and SD recording, proper shutter assembly, wireless module support, built in vertical grip, great high-ISO performance, 45-point or equivelant AF system maybe?
Correct me if the Pentax does have any of those, and feel free to add items to my list of what makes a 'pro' camera. |
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09/05/2006 12:25:06 AM · #3 |
A camera that a professional uses?
-couldn't help myself.
Message edited by author 2006-09-05 00:25:33. |
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09/05/2006 01:25:26 AM · #4 |
The K100 is really designed to compete with the Rebel series more than anything at this point. I am very impressed with the feel and function of the camera. I had planned on waiting for the K10 to come out, but with a number of things on the horizion the timing was right for me to go with a DSLR. The fact that it works with my entire collection of lenses (including my 645 with an adapter) just made the decision that much easier.
The last Rebel that I really liked the feel of was the film version Rebel G. I do like the feel of the 20D/30D, but couldn't see dropping nearly $1000 dollars on just a body at this point. And the 5D was just so far out of my budget that I couldn't even consider it.
The Nikons are nice- the D70 feels good and a great suite of lenses, but I'd be in over $3000 dollars to get the same lens coverage that I have with Pentax and I still wouldn't have any stabilization.
As to what makes a pro camera. It really depends on what the pro is intending to use it for. A wedding photographer probably doesn't need a high FPS, but a quality flash system is a must. A sport/wildlife photographer has little if any need for a flash system but high FPS is essential. A pro landscape photographer probably doesn't really need either FPS or high end flashes (other than fill from time to time). Have I muddied the waters of what makes a pro camera?
I guess what it comes down to is a pro camera has the features that you need to make money or a living with.
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09/05/2006 02:35:49 AM · #5 |
Thanks for all the replies. I have another follow-up question.
What DSLR's (besides the K100D) have image stabilization (anti-shake) built-in directly to the body?
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09/05/2006 02:38:26 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by lesgainous:
Thanks for all the replies. I have another follow-up question.
What DSLR's (besides the K100D) have image stabilization (anti-shake) built-in directly to the body? |
Sony's A100 does. And also, the Maxxum bodies if you are sentimental. |
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09/05/2006 02:44:28 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by lesgainous:
Thanks for all the replies. I have another follow-up question.
What DSLR's (besides the K100D) have image stabilization (anti-shake) built-in directly to the body? |
Sony's A100 does. And also, the Maxxum bodies if you are sentimental. |
Panasonic and upcoming Leica will too. |
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09/05/2006 02:47:22 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by lesgainous:
I'm just curious, but what "Pro" features are missing from the Pentax K100D? |
Mainly the words on that little bridge right above the lens.
:-P
Message edited by author 2006-09-05 02:48:30. |
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09/05/2006 03:19:11 AM · #9 |
The Panasonic DMC-L1 is Panny's only DSLR to date, just recently out in the stores and I don't believe it has in-body image stablization. In fact, the kit lens included with it is a Leica 14-50mm with in-lens image stablization. It has been rumored, though, that Panasonic's OIS technology currently used in their digicams will be applied to future DSLRs they put out. But as yet that's only rumor and uncomfirmed. And as far as I know, a Leica body is also just a rumor still. Plenty of 4/3rds users though would love to see in-body IS.
Originally posted by faidoi:
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by lesgainous:
Thanks for all the replies. I have another follow-up question.
What DSLR's (besides the K100D) have image stabilization (anti-shake) built-in directly to the body? |
Sony's A100 does. And also, the Maxxum bodies if you are sentimental. |
Panasonic and upcoming Leica will too. |
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09/05/2006 03:51:13 AM · #10 |
| my opinion is that in-body IS is a not good idea coz i think they shorten the life of the body itself |
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09/05/2006 03:52:00 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by gooc:
my opinion is that in-body IS is a not good idea coz i think they shorten the life of the body itself |
now this is something new. Why? |
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09/05/2006 04:57:12 AM · #12 |
K100D info
here's the specs for the k100D, if you read down it says that it, like all Pentax cameras has a stainless Steel Chassis. Also even the *ist DL can be used wirelessly. The K100D however is not a pro level camera, neither is the Nikon D200 for that matter, they are both high end por-sumer level cams, then D200 a bit higher end though.To date the only true Pro level cams I'm aware of, in the 35mm equivilant range are the Nikon D2x, and the Canon 1dsMkII.
Message edited by author 2006-09-05 04:57:48. |
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09/05/2006 12:53:38 PM · #13 |
| The D2X is not full frame, actually, Nikon uses the 1.5x crop for all of their digital cameras at the moment. |
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09/05/2006 01:15:51 PM · #14 |
Someones going to kill me for jumping off subject, but here goes anyway.
since there are alot of pentax users here, has anyone tried adjusting color levels or anything within the camera? for added brightness? I thought about playing with them but was scared, i might screw something up!! |
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09/05/2006 01:39:16 PM · #15 |
I use the Natural Mode and up the saturation 1 level, leaving contrast and sharpen at 0. Just make some changes and take some test shots to see what you like.
Originally posted by RockBruise:
Someones going to kill me for jumping off subject, but here goes anyway.
since there are alot of pentax users here, has anyone tried adjusting color levels or anything within the camera? for added brightness? I thought about playing with them but was scared, i might screw something up!! |
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09/05/2006 02:01:06 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by RockBruise:
Someones going to kill me for jumping off subject, but here goes anyway.
since there are alot of pentax users here, has anyone tried adjusting color levels or anything within the camera? for added brightness? I thought about playing with them but was scared, i might screw something up!! |
Search the Pentax SLR forum at DPCReview. There has a lot of discussion about adjusting settings there. |
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09/06/2006 02:43:41 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Jewellian:
K100D info
here's the specs for the k100D, if you read down it says that it, like all Pentax cameras has a stainless Steel Chassis. Also even the *ist DL can be used wirelessly. The K100D however is not a pro level camera, neither is the Nikon D200 for that matter, they are both high end por-sumer level cams, then D200 a bit higher end though.To date the only true Pro level cams I'm aware of, in the 35mm equivilant range are the Nikon D2X, and the Canon 1dsMkII. |
The Nikon D2X is considered a pro body by some, but is not a 35mm standard camera.
The Canon 1D series cams are also considered pro bodies, including the current 1Ds Mk II and the 1D Mk II n.
The Canon 5D is officially considered to be a prosumer cam, even though its full-frame 12MP sensor is a fair bit better than the D200. It possibly even bests the D2X, but the D2X gains in the area of usability.
other pro body cams are Hasselblad, Bronica with Leaf backs (or other), Leica R9 with a Leica/Kodak digital back... Kodak also put out a couple of pro-level full-frame cameras for use with either Canon or Nikon mount... Fuji S3 Pro is also considered a pro body, even though it features a 1.5x crop factor with a Nikon mount.
The Fuji S3 was recently released with special IR and UV capabilities that also put it in the 'pro' class in another sense, but for a specific use.
The term 'pro' is a bit loose in its definition though, and people can make money with just about any kind of camera out there... |
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09/07/2006 08:25:38 PM · #18 |
Does anyone know if the upcoming Pentax K10D has anti-shake/IS?
Also, what is the expected availability date on this model?
Thanks!
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09/11/2006 03:16:19 AM · #19 |
On the Pentax site for the K100D, it states that "Power zoom function not available" under the Lens Mount section.
Does that mean no power zoom on all lenses? Some lenses? |
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09/11/2006 03:43:28 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by lesgainous:
Does anyone know if the upcoming Pentax K10D has anti-shake/IS?
Also, what is the expected availability date on this model?
Thanks! |
Details are suppose to be released on Sept. 14 with release of Oct/Nov. |
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09/11/2006 04:41:34 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by SecondCurtain:
On the Pentax site for the K100D, it states that "Power zoom function not available" under the Lens Mount section.
Does that mean no power zoom on all lenses? Some lenses? |
all lenses, the power zoom was a feature of some earlier lenses that was dis-continued a while back. |
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