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09/03/2006 03:45:56 PM · #1
The Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi offers an unbeatable combination of performance, ease-of-use and value. It has a newly designed 10.1 MP CMOS sensor plus a host of new features including a 2.5-inch LCD monitor, the exclusive EOS Integrated Cleaning System and Canon's Picture Style technology. The XTi boasts a 9-point AF system with a highly sensitive f/2.8 center point for exceptional performance in low light, and maximum frame burst of 27 large JPEGs and 10 RAW to ensure you capture the action. All in a lightweight, ergonomic body. The Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi is proof positive that Canon continues to lead the way with phenomenal digital SLRs.

Features:
High performance digital SLR with 10.1 Megapixel Canon CMOS sensor and DIGIC II Image processor.
Large 2.5-inch LCD monitor with new user interface and wide viewing angle. Fast 3 frames-per-second shooting with 27-frame burst and a 0.2 second startup time. High precision, wide area 9-point autofocus system.
Picture Style settings for a broad range of control over color, contrast and sharpening. Print/Share button featuring advanced camera direct capabilities for greater user control while direct printing.
Fully compatible with over 50 EF and EF-S Lenses and a wide range of EOS System accessories.
Strong, lightweight body with the EOS Integrated Cleaning System including a Self Cleaning Sensor Unit.

$800USD at calumet.com!!!

DAMNIT. It just hurts to read when you buy a 20D a year ago, for almost double the price!

Message edited by author 2006-09-03 15:48:22.
09/03/2006 03:46:31 PM · #2
They pay you for marketing their camera? What's up?
09/03/2006 03:47:24 PM · #3
Originally posted by routerguy666:

They pay you for marketing their camera? What's up?


I wish. Didnt see anyone post about it, so I figured I would for anyone considering to buy a new dSLR.
09/03/2006 03:53:52 PM · #4
Now, this is interesting, I never knew that dust could be 'created' inside the cam. Am also interested in the dust removal software program at the end of show.
09/03/2006 03:54:46 PM · #5
It does look nice. Makes the 20D look long in the tooth now unfortunately, with the anti-dust thingy.

It was previously discussed here and here.
09/03/2006 03:57:19 PM · #6
Originally posted by jmlelii:


It just hurts to read when you buy a 20D a year ago, for almost double the price!

Boy doesn't it. But isn't it true that the 20D still shoots a faster burst at 5fps? I think so, but I'm not positive at what rate the new XTi shoots.

Also I like the fact that the 20D is made of titanium - just my preference. I wonder also how the rated shutter actuations compares...

Reckon I'll hang onto the 20D, it'll make a fine backup body one of these days. I just look forward to the day when Canon's new offerings drive the prices down of the 5D and 1ds or whatever that high end model is called.

09/03/2006 03:58:57 PM · #7
Originally posted by nova:

Originally posted by jmlelii:


It just hurts to read when you buy a 20D a year ago, for almost double the price!

Boy doesn't it. But isn't it true that the 20D still shoots a faster burst at 5fps? I think so, but I'm not positive at what rate the new XTi shoots.

Also I like the fact that the 20D is made of titanium - just my preference. I wonder also how the rated shutter actuations compares...

Reckon I'll hang onto the 20D, it'll make a fine backup body one of these days. I just look forward to the day when Canon's new offerings drive the prices down of the 5D and 1ds or whatever that high end model is called.


I'm certainly not complaining about my 20D, i think it was the best piece of equipment Ive purchased in a long time. I just hate numbers ;)

And yes, I will eventually be upgrading to a 5D, and will have the 20D as my 2nd body. Soon!
09/03/2006 04:02:27 PM · #8
The XTi is still 3fps
09/03/2006 04:10:52 PM · #9
As far as I'm concerned the benefits of the 20/30D over the rebel series are better than the slightly better sensor and dust remover in the XTI. It's basically a downgrade if you go from a 20D.
09/03/2006 07:20:22 PM · #10
Originally posted by MadMan2k:

As far as I'm concerned the benefits of the 20/30D over the rebel series are better than the slightly better sensor and dust remover in the XTI. It's basically a downgrade if you go from a 20D.


Agrred, this new one has great numbers but still the low-end DSLR. If they would have put the same sensor in the 30D then it would have been a real winner. The XT is a great camera but still a light weith plastic (high impact) plastic. 20 D stays until they improve the 5D a little more and drop it's price.

So what's the rumor on the next Canon DSLR upgrade?
09/03/2006 07:46:14 PM · #11
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Now, this is interesting, I never knew that dust could be 'created' inside the cam. Am also interested in the dust removal software program at the end of show.


This cool, I did not know how this self cleaning system works!!! thanks!!!!
09/03/2006 07:52:33 PM · #12
Better rush out and buy one before it's replaced by the XTi-MkII. ;P
09/03/2006 09:08:24 PM · #13
So Nikon is 10.2MP and the Canon is only 10.1 -- clearly a big disadvantage. I think I'll stick with Nikon.
09/03/2006 09:24:21 PM · #14
i think we all canon dudes must wait for a decent ful frame camara in lower price. so wait a couple oe years
09/03/2006 09:46:38 PM · #15
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Now, this is interesting, I never knew that dust could be 'created' inside the cam. Am also interested in the dust removal software program at the end of show.


Watching the video it's very similar to what Olympus have been using for a few years! It's about time someone followed suit!
09/03/2006 09:52:51 PM · #16
Looks like it automatically clones out dust that it can't shake off from shots. That should raise a stink in basic challenges :-)
09/03/2006 09:52:54 PM · #17
I just got the sony Alpha 100 it has a sensor dust removal system as well, and the specs are higherthan the xti great camera and with the new catl ziess lens its unbeatable
09/03/2006 09:54:44 PM · #18
I'm very glad I didn't follow the market for months before buying my 10D. I had my cash, and I went splash. That was Jan2004, and i've never looked back. Sure, i've lusted over a full-frame, but in the end, i've got a great camera, that produces great shots (with a little input from me) and takes just about any lens i want it to.

I'm glad i went splash when i did.
09/04/2006 01:13:13 AM · #19
I believe the 20D (and 30D) is made from Magnesium, not Titanium.

magnesium is very light and very strong. titanium is too, but magnesium is more rigid.

PS. They are only called magnesium and titanium, they are generally still alloys.
09/04/2006 01:34:45 AM · #20
The XTi looks like a solid entry level camera. Nikon will most likely follow suit with some sort of integrated dust removal system, but honestly, I've had my D200 for four months and have gone through about 9,200 shutter releases as of this night. I switch lenses quite often, and on a daily basis carry my D200 exposed over my shoulder along with a second lens on my belt. I had dust once, and I blew with my mouth (gasp!) and it was gone. I'm sure many people will leap at this for its dust removal system, and with good reason, but honestly there are other considerations to make when investing in a camera lineup.

I fear that many people will give up on many features which effect the everyday use of the camera (ease of use, quick access to settings, ergonomics) because they are dazzled by the 'dust removal' system, which will save them five minutes of cleaning every four months (and thats with constant use).

It's really only two steps, because the software step has been around quite a while in PS2 and other programs (including Nikon Capture), with many Nikons having a built in setting to take a dust reference shot.

Without the dust removal system it's a nice camera, but as the little words under my name will show you, I'm simply not a Canon guy. Canon will win this battle however, and for good reason: they get their product out and available sooner than Nikon. If I'm entering the market, do I want to wait months for a solid D80 or get a "magical dust removing" XTi right now?

Nikon screwed up big time and Canon took great advantage. Hopefully the market will stay stiff enough that Nikon will manage to keep competitive. If Nikon can deliver a proper counter-blow, I would be very pleased. Perhaps an external attaching dust remover compatable with all Nikons?

Message edited by author 2006-09-04 01:35:06.
09/04/2006 01:55:44 AM · #21
I also noticed that they have removed the LCD on the top of the camera body that gives setting information.

beh.
09/04/2006 11:21:28 AM · #22
Originally posted by eschelar:

I also noticed that they have removed the LCD on the top of the camera body that gives setting information.

beh.


The 350 only had it on the back which was pointless imo because it showed 99% of the same info you would see by looking through the viewfinder 2mm above the lcd panel.
09/04/2006 11:29:28 AM · #23
I believe the new 400D/XTi was covered in this thread...
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