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 08/30/2006 11:11:47 PM · #26
Originally posted by idnic:
Can't we all just get a bong? Chill guys, was just an observation and a good one at that. Debate unecessary.


Debate: unecessary
Calibration: necessary

08/30/2006 11:12:59 PM · #27
Originally posted by mad_brewer:
Originally posted by idnic:
Can't we all just get a bong? Chill guys, was just an observation and a good one at that. Debate unecessary.


Debate: unecessary
Calibration: necessary


Yuh huh! See, easy peasy! :)
 08/30/2006 11:13:55 PM · #28

Hey! Play nice. I think we are all on the same side....or supposed to be anyway.


08/30/2006 11:17:35 PM · #29
Originally posted by jenesis:
ARgh!!! I hate calibration. Just when I think mines good I see something like this and adjust it and it just makes me doubt my monitor and my editing. I guess I really should invest in a spyder or something. After adjusting to match the above bar so that the last 4 or so boxes didn't blend into eachother, I realize that my silhouette photo looks like complete crap and deserves the 4.6 score that it is currently sitting at. Poop (to put it kindly)!!! I don't want to have to deal with this. Of course, all the photos that I've edited lately I'm sure need to be reworked. Again I'll repeat, ARGH!!!!!!!!!


I wouldn't worry about it... no matter what you do as far as calibration here, you're going to be off with 50% of the viewers. Imposible to be right on for everyone. Stay with what you have. your stuff looks dead on to me... :)
 08/30/2006 11:18:31 PM · #30
Originally posted by mad_brewer:
Originally posted by idnic:
Can't we all just get a bong? Chill guys, was just an observation and a good one at that. Debate unecessary.


Debate: unecessary
Calibration: necessary


And the bong? ;-)
 08/30/2006 11:28:57 PM · #31
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by mad_brewer:
Originally posted by idnic:
Can't we all just get a bong? Chill guys, was just an observation and a good one at that. Debate unecessary.


Debate: unecessary
Calibration: necessary


And the bong? ;-)


Meet me by the persimmons... lol
 08/30/2006 11:44:14 PM · #32
*prances through the fields singing, "I love Cindi!"*
 08/30/2006 11:45:28 PM · #33
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
*prances through the fields singing, "I love Cindi!"*


OK, now that's odd! lol
 08/30/2006 11:50:26 PM · #34
after my hit from the bong....

just remember that when someone suggests something, you don't have to do it...it's just a suggestion...i thought it was a good one too...i could see all the different shades and so i don't think i need calibration so i left the subject alone...and now it's just being thrown way out of porportion....thanks idnic...for the giggle.

now back to my other hit...hehehehhe
 08/30/2006 11:58:55 PM · #35
Wyoming folk know what bongs are?
Corn cob ones - right?
08/31/2006 12:00:52 AM · #36
ah crap.. just played with brightness/contrast settings, and i realise just how much my sillhouette entry sucks :(

so much detail showing up that i didn't want... ah well, at least this is a wake up for me...

very hard to get the brightness/contrast settings just right so that i can see all the blocks... but i can just make them out now
 08/31/2006 12:05:34 AM · #37
Originally posted by Qart:
Originally posted by jenesis:
ARgh!!! I hate calibration. Just when I think mines good I see something like this and adjust it and it just makes me doubt my monitor and my editing.


I wouldn't worry about it... no matter what you do as far as calibration here, you're going to be off with 50% of the viewers. Imposible to be right on for everyone. Stay with what you have. your stuff looks dead on to me... :)


You're right. I know alot (probably most) monitors aren't truly calibrated (mine included). I just wish it wasn't so difficult to be sure if what you're seeing is actually as it should be.

And let me clarify, just in case it isn't clear, my frustrations have everything to do with myself and my monitor and nothing to do with Leroys suggestion. It was very helpful and got me to take a look at how I was seeing things. Someone made mention about Peete's "Steve" entry and how they couldn't see the bubble around the man. I too had a very hard time seeing the bubble while others were saying they could see it as clear as day. So I knew something was up with my monitor and this just confirmed it.

Needless to say, I probably won't be voting on the Silhouette challenge until I get this blasted monitor set up correctly. :-)

Thanks for the suggestion Leroy! Now go have fun frolicking in the flower fields with Cindi and the happy weeds. :-D
 08/31/2006 12:07:45 AM · #38
Originally posted by BradP:
Wyoming folk know what bongs are?
Corn cob ones - right?


As i throw my big john deer tractor at you....(as i run for shelter in my herd of bulls - not sure if that's the best thing)
 08/31/2006 12:08:24 AM · #39
Originally posted by diablo2097:

very hard to get the brightness/contrast settings just right so that i can see all the blocks... but i can just make them out now


You can get close with contrast/brightness... if you have photoshop, use Adobe Gamma in your Windows (if you are using windows) control panel to fine tune it.

If you don't have PS, Microsoft has a color management tool here. That does about the same thing.

Message edited by author 2006-08-31 00:10:30.
 08/31/2006 12:10:20 AM · #40
Originally posted by angela_packard:
Originally posted by BradP:
Wyoming folk know what bongs are?
Corn cob ones - right?


As i throw my big john deer tractor at you....(as i run for shelter in my herd of bulls - not sure if that's the best thing)


aren't bongs those things that you hit and make that really loud noise?????? :)
 08/31/2006 12:15:22 AM · #41
Yeah - and does wonders to scare the bulls I've herd about too.
08/31/2006 12:17:28 AM · #42
Originally posted by BradP:
Yeah - and does wonders to scare the bulls I've herd about too.


attack bulls attack..........

aaaahhhhhh running like hell
 08/31/2006 11:33:03 AM · #43
Originally posted by lil_mo:
Good idea, thanks:)


Just wanted to say thanks again. I've been playing with calibration between my mac book at home and my flat CRT PC monitor at work. I think with this graphic I finally have them both calibrated for black and white... color is still a little different, but this certainly helped.

I was getting frustrated because images (photos, work stuff etc..) looked so much darker/saturated at work and much more clean at home (which also showed a ton more flaws in my blacks).

08/31/2006 11:41:29 AM · #44
Thank you for this post! I have a dual monitor setup and they are both very different. I wondered which is true. According to your scale they are both off on both ends of the spectrum. My main monitor blends the two last blacks together. The other blends the two first whites. How odd. I start with my main and do my basic editing and then move it to the lighter one to check if my cloneing shows up.
This is going to require a little research now.
Thanks!
08/31/2006 11:45:16 AM · #45
Originally posted by jenesis:
ARgh!!! I hate calibration. Just when I think mines good I see something like this and adjust it and it just makes me doubt my monitor and my editing. I guess I really should invest in a spyder or something. After adjusting to match the above bar so that the last 4 or so boxes didn't blend into eachother, I realize that my silhouette photo looks like complete crap and deserves the 4.6 score that it is currently sitting at. Poop (to put it kindly)!!! I don't want to have to deal with this. Of course, all the photos that I've edited lately I'm sure need to be reworked. Again I'll repeat, ARGH!!!!!!!!!


Jen, check out the Huey. Very inexpensive and you leave it attached to the USB port and it tracks room brightness and adjusts for you. It was on sale a month ago for only $59--posted that but no replies so I don't know how many people jumped on board. I just checked again, and that pric is gone, but it's still pretty reasonable at $69-$79.

Works pretty well IMHO, and my LCD monitors were way off before I got it!
 08/31/2006 11:49:03 AM · #46
Originally posted by posthumous:
whenever I try using that damn thing I make my monitor too bright. That's why my magic & mystery entry was so dark and I got killed for it. So, no thank you, calibration!


You have to be careful using that bar. Ambient lighting around your computer can really skew results with it. I use the Eye One and I'm always able to see every division on that bar at my normal viewing light. Which is no direct light around the monitor. Dim reflected light only. I usually only do a final proof on my images after dark. ;)
 08/31/2006 11:49:08 AM · #47
my post may have sounded angry, but really it's a cry for help.
 08/31/2006 11:49:49 AM · #48
Oh, and here's a linky for those of you who want to do it without extra hardware. But I do recommend the Huey (by Pantone).
 08/31/2006 12:24:01 PM · #49
Originally posted by mad_brewer:
Good advice to calibrate for all challenges.

I always considered silhouette to have no detail, but the challenge description says:

"Details: Silhouettes are created by backlit subjects, which causes them to appear solid and without much, if any detail. Submit your best silhouette taken this week!"

Bold is mine for emphasis. I believe that leaves the door a bit open for a bit of detail.


Very well stated.

I think some of the "discussions" have been mis-directed to "calibrate or not" and "definition of silhouette". IMHO it really comes down to understanding of the challenge description and rating/commenting fairly based on that. Of course "without much" is somewhat subjective, as most other things here at DPC.

Sorry, couldn't resist commenting here.

What ever happened to the saying "Don't worry...be happy"? I kind of liked that. :-)
 08/31/2006 12:25:30 PM · #50
Originally posted by nshapiro:
Oh, and here's a linky for those of you who want to do it without extra hardware. But I do recommend the Huey (by Pantone).


Oh good, I had lost that link... now back in my bookmarks... thanks :-)
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