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 08/30/2006 04:21:55 AM · #1
I was looking at peete's red ribbon winner.



I have my monitor calibrated (so I thought!) with Spyder2. I cannot see the bubble he describes. I put it in Photoshop and I can see what he is talking about when I up the brightness.

So, is my calibration off or can you not see the bubble either? I can see a tiny something up and to the right of 'Steve', below the top hand.

Thanks :)

Great image, btw, peete :) Congrats!

Jenn


08/30/2006 04:25:37 AM · #2
Yes, I see it just fine.

For calibration as simple as it gets and with good results look here.

David
 08/30/2006 04:28:57 AM · #3
If you've got spyder calibration (and you've calibrated correctly), and you can't see something that others see, chances are YOUR calibration is correct, and everybody else is viewing on shit monitors.
 08/30/2006 04:30:51 AM · #4
Originally posted by ergo:
If you've got spyder calibration (and you've calibrated correctly), and you can't see something that others see, chances are YOUR calibration is correct, and everybody else is viewing on shit monitors.


I don't know for sure if it is calibrated correctly, after viewing his image. I figured I'd ask here to see what everyone else sees. The error could very well be me and my monitor :) I just want to find out before I edit any more photos...LOL
 08/30/2006 04:31:28 AM · #5
I know this is a bit off topic but the photographer comments of that photo makes it sound like that should be DQed. Not referring to the multiple exposure part since that has already been talked about earlier with another photo but the part that he says, "in post-process i rotated the bubble, shrank it to make it look better, and placed the hands accordingly". It's a great image but surely those editing steps can't be legal.

Message edited by author 2006-08-30 04:32:40.
 08/30/2006 04:46:43 AM · #6
Originally posted by yanko:
I know this is a bit off topic but the photographer comments of that photo makes it sound like that should be DQed. Not referring to the multiple exposure part since that has already been talked about earlier with another photo but the part that he says, "in post-process i rotated the bubble, shrank it to make it look better, and placed the hands accordingly". It's a great image but surely those editing steps can't be legal.

In this challenge you were allowed to move all major elements in the photo, but normally not allowable and would get DQ'ed. But this shot uses three different photos and isn't merged in camera since the camera listed that he used can't do that. I thought they said you could only have one set of exif data, hence all the Steve brushes. I guess we'll see, this challenge was a little confusing from the rules standpoint.
Oh and I can see the bubble, except the top right and behind his back.

Message edited by author 2006-08-30 04:47:47.
 08/30/2006 04:48:58 AM · #7
yes I see the bubble
 08/30/2006 04:59:55 AM · #8
Originally posted by jdannels:
Originally posted by yanko:
I know this is a bit off topic but the photographer comments of that photo makes it sound like that should be DQed. Not referring to the multiple exposure part since that has already been talked about earlier with another photo but the part that he says, "in post-process i rotated the bubble, shrank it to make it look better, and placed the hands accordingly". It's a great image but surely those editing steps can't be legal.

In this challenge you were allowed to move all major elements in the photo, but normally not allowable and would get DQ'ed. But this shot uses three different photos and isn't merged in camera since the camera listed that he used can't do that. I thought they said you could only have one set of exif data, hence all the Steve brushes. I guess we'll see, this challenge was a little confusing from the rules standpoint.
Oh and I can see the bubble, except the top right and behind his back.


Ah ok. Forgot about that. Also to answer the OP question, I also see the bubble.

Message edited by author 2006-08-30 05:00:37.
 08/30/2006 06:19:23 AM · #9
yeah i see the bubble fine.
 08/30/2006 07:01:12 AM · #10
I can see it and I have not calibrated my monitor since getting the computer back from the shop a month ago.
 08/30/2006 07:04:46 AM · #11
I can see it, though I've only just recalibrated (using software) to a brigher point than I was using before, so who knows if I would have seen it before now.
 08/30/2006 07:39:14 AM · #12
Originally posted by jdannels:
Originally posted by yanko:
I know this is a bit off topic but the photographer comments of that photo makes it sound like that should be DQed. Not referring to the multiple exposure part since that has already been talked about earlier with another photo but the part that he says, "in post-process i rotated the bubble, shrank it to make it look better, and placed the hands accordingly". It's a great image but surely those editing steps can't be legal.

In this challenge you were allowed to move all major elements in the photo, but normally not allowable and would get DQ'ed. But this shot uses three different photos and isn't merged in camera since the camera listed that he used can't do that. I thought they said you could only have one set of exif data, hence all the Steve brushes. I guess we'll see, this challenge was a little confusing from the rules standpoint.
Oh and I can see the bubble, except the top right and behind his back.


he says in his notes that he got help from labuda maybe he used labudas camera to do the exposures in camera.

Message edited by author 2006-08-30 07:39:44.
 08/30/2006 07:49:19 AM · #13
Originally posted by jdannels:
Originally posted by yanko:
I know this is a bit off topic but the photographer comments of that photo makes it sound like that should be DQed. Not referring to the multiple exposure part since that has already been talked about earlier with another photo but the part that he says, "in post-process i rotated the bubble, shrank it to make it look better, and placed the hands accordingly". It's a great image but surely those editing steps can't be legal.

In this challenge you were allowed to move all major elements in the photo, but normally not allowable and would get DQ'ed. But this shot uses three different photos and isn't merged in camera since the camera listed that he used can't do that. I thought they said you could only have one set of exif data, hence all the Steve brushes. I guess we'll see, this challenge was a little confusing from the rules standpoint.
Oh and I can see the bubble, except the top right and behind his back.


Unless I am thinking wrong the rule of not using multiple photos was still in place. And this says its 3 exposures combined. Not sure if you can do in camera and combine and then still manipulate things individually and get the effect shown here as my photoshop skills are limited.

MattO
 08/30/2006 07:50:34 AM · #14
Labuda shows as having a Nikon D200 but the photo shows a Nikon D70 being used. Maybe Peete just forgot to change the camera details for the pic. Whatever - its a great picture and I can see the bubble.
 08/30/2006 08:41:38 AM · #15
Originally posted by yanko:
I know this is a bit off topic but the photographer comments of that photo makes it sound like that should be DQed. Not referring to the multiple exposure part since that has already been talked about earlier with another photo but the part that he says, "in post-process i rotated the bubble, shrank it to make it look better, and placed the hands accordingly". It's a great image but surely those editing steps can't be legal.


Now I'm confused! Also sorry for being off topic but I thought the advanced editing says the image must come from one exposure so, how can multi exposure images be aloud? I guess I missed where this was discussed before. Here is the quote from the rules:

"Your entry must come from a single photograph, taken during the specified challenge timeframe. You may not post-process your entry from or to include elements of multiple images, multiple exposures,"

Nice photo BTW.

Message edited by author 2006-08-30 08:45:34.
 08/30/2006 08:55:03 AM · #16
Originally posted by TomH1000:


Now I'm confused! Also sorry for being off topic but I thought the advanced editing says the image must come from one exposure so, how can multi exposure images be aloud? .


Yep. I asked the same thing, it's ok if it's done in the camera, which I guess the higher-end ones allow.
 08/30/2006 08:56:45 AM · #17
Thanks everyone. Looks like my calibration needs some work!

Jenn
 08/30/2006 09:01:37 AM · #18
Originally posted by mist:
Originally posted by TomH1000:


Now I'm confused! Also sorry for being off topic but I thought the advanced editing says the image must come from one exposure so, how can multi exposure images be aloud? .


Yep. I asked the same thing, it's ok if it's done in the camera, which I guess the higher-end ones allow.


It seems multiple images were not allowed as spelled out in the Admin. Clarification Thread Pity, though, as it's a superb image.
 08/30/2006 09:03:34 AM · #19
Now I will feel awful for starting this thread, if his photo gets dq'd :o(
 08/30/2006 09:09:59 AM · #20
Originally posted by JRalston:
Now I will feel awful for starting this thread, if his photo gets dq'd :o(


Don't. It has to go through the validation process anyway. I'm pretty sure the SC would have caught that detail without the aid of this thread.
;-)
 08/30/2006 09:11:59 AM · #21
I can see the bubble just fine at home (on a macbook with an LCD) but not as well at work (one a large flat CRT monitor).

08/30/2006 09:15:23 AM · #22
Originally posted by lil_mo:
I can see the bubble just fine at home (on a macbook with an LCD) but not as well at work (one a large flat CRT monitor).


That is what I have....a flat CRT. It's brightness setting, on the monitor itself, is turned all the way up yet I cannot see the bubble!

I have a ViewSonic P95f+ if that matters to anyone who understands all this stuff...LOL
 08/30/2006 09:37:21 AM · #23
FYI, the three parts of this image were combined using the in-camera multiple exposure functionality of the D200, and this shot has been validated.
 08/30/2006 09:38:16 AM · #24
Originally posted by Manic:
FYI, the three parts of this image were combined using the in-camera multiple exposure functionality of the D200, and this shot has been validated.


That's good news! It would have been a shame if it couldn't stand...wonderful image!
 08/30/2006 09:42:19 AM · #25
I see bubble.
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