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08/22/2006 01:58:17 PM · #1 |
Do people do this? There is a conversion for Mamiya cameras that converts a 35mm SLR camera into a digital. The "digital back" looks as if its just a bolt on CCD.
Seems like alot of money to convert what you have over to digital. Would be kinda cool to have that vintage look but digital. |
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08/22/2006 02:02:14 PM · #2 |
| those are medium format cameras, and the digital backs can cost many thousands of dollars. But yes, people do it. |
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08/22/2006 02:03:22 PM · #3 |
Probably works out great for MF equipment (and yes expensive). I wouldn't see much advantage to it in the 35mm world though.
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08/22/2006 02:14:07 PM · #4 |
the only conversion for film to digital on the market right now is for Leica cameras. Its kind of like the old kodak thing that was used on the F-3. It screws right on to the bottom and allows you to shoot digitally. I want to say its right around a 10mp attachment and very expensive compared to what you can get out of a DSLR. Although if you own a leica and don't want to give it up its a great deal.
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08/22/2006 02:37:43 PM · #5 |
No this is the one i was talking about.
Message edited by author 2006-08-22 14:37:58. |
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08/22/2006 02:40:23 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by BowerR64:
No this is the one i was talking about.
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I thought they gave up on that project years ago...
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08/22/2006 03:04:26 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by cryan:
the only conversion for film to digital on the market right now is for Leica cameras. Its kind of like the old kodak thing that was used on the F-3. It screws right on to the bottom and allows you to shoot digitally. I want to say its right around a 10mp attachment and very expensive compared to what you can get out of a DSLR. Although if you own a leica and don't want to give it up its a great deal. |
actually, they have leaf backs for both mamiya and hasselblad, and there are other makers, too. there is a 32 megapixel one either on the market or tba, i think by leaf.
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08/22/2006 03:05:41 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by BowerR64:
No this is the one i was talking about.
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I thought they gave up on that project years ago... |
Yea, I thought so too, because the quality was so bad. |
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08/22/2006 03:08:48 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by BowerR64:
No this is the one i was talking about.
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I thought they gave up on that project years ago... |
I also read that they gave up. |
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08/22/2006 03:13:25 PM · #10 |
Yeh, that's reaching back... Here's the apparent end of the story:
//www.dpreview.com/news/0109/01091702siliconfilmvaporizes.asp
Given recent advances, I wouldn't doubt that someone resurrects the idea, but with the falling entry price of true DSLRs, I don't see the benefit.
Message edited by author 2006-08-22 15:13:32. |
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08/22/2006 03:37:28 PM · #11 |
Didn't Nikon once float a heavy in price/low in performance digital back for the N90?
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08/22/2006 03:37:57 PM · #12 |
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08/22/2006 03:41:36 PM · #13 |
Yeah the back for the N90s was made by kodak.
actually, originally posted by MO they have leaf backs for both mamiya and hasselblad, and there are other makers, too. there is a 32 megapixel one either on the market or tba, i think by leaf. I was just speaking in 35mm terms. I've seen work done by the Phase One 32mp back. All I can say is WOW.
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08/22/2006 03:56:53 PM · #14 |
| 39mp is the new top of the line for MF iirc. |
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08/22/2006 05:15:59 PM · #15 |
I don't know what price was considered for the silicon film, but, I would expect it not to compete with the low end of the market (i.e. 350D, D50 etc) but rather with the higher end of the market.
If the price for the silicon film were around $1500, then it would be easy to buy one of those and a EOS 1V body and still come out ahead compared to a 1Ds MkII or even a 1D MkII. |
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08/22/2006 06:10:07 PM · #16 |
They Still Have a Website Silicon Film
Not sure the last time they updated. Odd if they are still around and marketing products that the last press release seems to be from 2002. At least the last on on dpreview.
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08/22/2006 06:18:27 PM · #17 |
| Even if they could do it cheaply, think about how terrible it would be to control it. Film cameras weren't built to have a rear color LCD, or have any digital controls on them, and it would be really awkward if it was all down on a crappy grip at the bottom. |
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08/23/2006 03:19:18 AM · #18 |
I kinda want to try this with an older digital camera i have. What would be a good SLR camera to use?
I have a polaroid PDC640 that is 500K pixals and a 1.3mp fujifilm MX1200 and a DX10 They are all fixed lens cameras but what if i extend the wires out from the CCD and just hook the CCD into an SLR? Like glue the CCD to cardboard and position it where the film should be.
I can just open the apature to like 4.5 (thats what it is on the 2 fujifilm cameras) then the shutter on the digital will work like its suposed to right? |
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08/23/2006 06:39:48 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by BowerR64:
I have a polaroid PDC640 that is 500K pixals and a 1.3mp fujifilm MX1200 and a DX10 They are all fixed lens cameras but what if i extend the wires out from the CCD and just hook the CCD into an SLR? Like glue the CCD to cardboard and position it where the film should be. |
Go for it!
I don't see why you have to worry about setting the aperture though, that shouldn't affect anything. The issues I see are;
- The CCD is surface mounted to a circuit board. The circuit board might not fit into the space in the back of the film SLR
- You need to somehow wire the shutter to the circuit board to let the CCD know when to 'take a shot' and store it to the memory card.
- Timing - you need to make sure there is no sync issue between the shutter opening and the CCD capturing the image.
- Focal plane - The CCD will have to be mounted at the correct distance back from the lens.
But if you've got an old film SLR and an old digicam then why not give it a go to see what happens. |
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08/23/2006 01:10:13 PM · #20 |
35mm cameras have the same distance right? the film has to lay in the same spot on every camera or be the same distance from the lenses right?
Since the camera im using is a fixed lens type it has no shutter so the timming thing wont be an issue right? or would i still have to adjust the slr to perform correctly?
I would think i would want the shutter to open for a little longer then the digital. |
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08/23/2006 01:14:27 PM · #21 |
| I was on the efilm waiting list for years. I was told by them that it was FCC approval that was delaying the product introduction. I gave up on them when the D100 came out. |
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08/23/2006 01:19:15 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
- The CCD is surface mounted to a circuit board. The circuit board might not fit into the space in the back of the film SLR
- You need to somehow wire the shutter to the circuit board to let the CCD know when to 'take a shot' and store it to the memory card.
- Timing - you need to make sure there is no sync issue between the shutter opening and the CCD capturing the image.
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It was my understanding that, at least with the D90s unit, was that the unit communicated with the camera thru the data back contacts. The MF-26 back has a lot of capabilities, so this made since to me. |
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