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 08/16/2006 12:37:08 PM · #26
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
...found out the hard way not to scratch myself on camera.

If that was scratching, I've been scratching wrong all these years.
 08/16/2006 12:40:37 PM · #27
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
found out the hard way not to scratch myself on camera... :-)


Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
 08/16/2006 12:45:10 PM · #28
I really don't see the big deal, i mean i think the purpose of this site is to improve ones skills. you need to take it easy.
 08/16/2006 12:50:24 PM · #29
Originally posted by zaflabout:
I really don't see the big deal, i mean i think the purpose of this site is to improve ones skills. you need to take it easy.

Might want to rephrase that. Could occur as a bit condescending to the OP who is already upset as it is.
 08/16/2006 12:50:56 PM · #30
Originally posted by zaflabout:
I really don't see the big deal, i mean i think the purpose of this site is to improve ones skills. you need to take it easy.


I second that, it's not like there's $1000 waiting at the end of each challenge, it's to learn & improve your shots & editing... Easy up & have fun otherwise it's really not worth it is it...?
 08/16/2006 12:52:30 PM · #31
im relaxed. its just a website. if i was not ranked 326 for that image, i may have been a bit more understanding.

i see i violated the rules, weather i agree or not. but its not just my one image, it was all of my contest photos iv done that with.
 08/16/2006 12:52:37 PM · #32
Just so it doesn't seem like we're all "ganging up" on him or anything... (and no, I do not think anyone has said anything wrong) I can understand how frustrating it would be to think that you are doing certain things the way you are supposed to do them, and then have that not be the case.

edit: This post came a little late - eug already said something and the OP already said something so yeah, everybody feel free to ignore my ramblings.

Message edited by author 2006-08-16 12:54:10.
 08/16/2006 12:53:53 PM · #33
Originally posted by steveh552:
im relaxed. its just a website. if i was not ranked 326 for that image, i may have been a bit more understanding.

i see i violated the rules, weather i agree or not. but its not just my one image, it was all of my contest photos iv done that with.

I think when all is said and done you'll find the SC saying that your editing is acceptable.
 08/16/2006 12:54:13 PM · #34
I'm still a bit confused as to the neccesity of a duplicate layer incase of an editing issue. can't you just click on "revert" to go back to the original if needed?
08/16/2006 12:54:32 PM · #35
Originally posted by steveh552:
im relaxed. its just a website. if i was not ranked 326 for that image, i may have been a bit more understanding.


327-356 still care. ;)
 08/16/2006 12:57:42 PM · #36
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
I'm still a bit confused as to the necessity of a duplicate layer in case of an editing issue. can't you just click on "revert" to go back to the original if needed?

You can only "UNDO" to a certain level. I often Clone so many times that I fill the Undo buffer and can't go back. If you create a layer and hide the original. You can always delete the copy and have something to go back to. I prefer to make a copy of the original FILE instead of a copy of a Layer, but different people are taught different ways.
 08/16/2006 12:58:36 PM · #37
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
I'm still a bit confused as to the neccesity of a duplicate layer incase of an editing issue. can't you just click on "revert" to go back to the original if needed?


Sure, if you haven't saved anything. In the case of destructive editing such as sharpening, etc, it is always good to work with a duplicate layer.
 08/16/2006 12:59:32 PM · #38
Place: 351 out of 357

Yup...I care...not really, but I had to make the point for someone in that range that does.
 08/16/2006 12:59:40 PM · #39
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
I'm still a bit confused as to the necessity of a duplicate layer in case of an editing issue. can't you just click on "revert" to go back to the original if needed?

You can only "UNDO" to a certain level. I often Clone so many times that I fill the Undo buffer and can't go back. If you create a layer and hide the original. You can always delete the copy and have something to go back to. I prefer to make a copy of the original FILE instead of a copy of a Layer, but different people are taught different ways.


not undo or back. i know that has its limits. a certain number of steps backwards. but revert is a completely different button which takes you back to it as it was originanly. no matter what youve done. it sounds like the same as this duplicate layer thing.
 08/16/2006 01:00:21 PM · #40
Originally posted by steveh552:
im relaxed. its just a website. if i was not ranked 326 for that image, i may have been a bit more understanding.

i see i violated the rules, weather i agree or not. but its not just my one image, it was all of my contest photos iv done that with.


No one said you violated the rules. There are many ways of and many reasons for duplicating layers. Some of which are legal, some of which are not. Which is why proof was requested, so SC could review the information and image and see what was going on.
On your image though, you just put 'duplicate layer'. We just needed clarificatoin. That's all. Like I said, the image is being reviewed...nothing has been DQed (and most likely WONT be).
08/16/2006 01:02:31 PM · #41
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
I'm still a bit confused as to the neccesity of a duplicate layer incase of an editing issue. can't you just click on "revert" to go back to the original if needed?


Sure, if you haven't saved anything. In the case of destructive editing such as sharpening, etc, it is always good to work with a duplicate layer.


hopefully youd save as a new name"in progress" or something then you can just start from your original again. this all seems pointless anyway as it turns out it's ok to use the duplicate layer in basic I was just trying to mention the alternative method if it were illegal.
08/16/2006 01:05:10 PM · #42
I can see why someone would ask for validation as the background looks like it could have been done with a filter. Submitting the original would prove you didn't. (I didn't vote on this challenge so this is the first time I have seen this image.) If the duplicate layer ends up being illegal, wouldn't you rather learn that on a lower placing entry than when you are in the top ten?

I duplicate my image and work on the copy. If I mess up I can either go before my goof, go back to where I opened it, or simply make another copy of my original. Probably not the right way, or even the best way, but it does work and is definitely legal.

I have been asked twice to submit proof. Once was on a basic picture and I have no idea what someone thought I did. The other was a little heavier on the editing in a basic challenge, but still legal. I just submit and hold my breath until I find out all is OK.
 08/16/2006 01:06:30 PM · #43
Originally posted by steveh552:
if i was not ranked 326 for that image, i may have been a bit more understanding.


What difference does that make? If something is questioned, we'll check it whether you finished first or last. In this case, it doesn't look like there's a problem, so it would appear you're getting all worked up over nothing.
 08/16/2006 02:43:10 PM · #44
Now I am being asked for my NEF which is just like asking for a "negative" from a photogrpaher.

I have no issue providing the unedited JPG, which I have, but I do not have broadband, im on a 33.6 dial up, do you know how long it would take to send?
 08/16/2006 02:46:35 PM · #45
Originally posted by steveh552:
Now I am being asked for my NEF which is just like asking for a "negative" from a photogrpaher.

I have no issue providing the unedited JPG, which I have, but I do not have broadband, im on a 33.6 dial up, do you know how long it would take to send?


You might want to take some time to check out the rules. It will help prevent such surprises in the future.
 08/16/2006 02:49:57 PM · #46
If you shoot in RAW + JPEG (any size), then you can supply the JPEG as your original. Otherwise you have to send the RAW file since an exported JPEG is ALWAYS modified- even if you didn't do anything before exporting it.
 08/16/2006 02:50:57 PM · #47
Originally posted by steveh552:
then you might as well DQ it now, because i duplicated the layer. I dont see how that matters in basic, its not like i selected one part, but instead the whole image.

i think an adjustment does more damage than a dup. layer.


I also always duplicate the background layer before applying noise reduction and such to it, just in case I feel I've overdone it and want to change it. I don't like doing anything too my image that I can't undo easily, always work on adjustment layers as much as possible.
 08/16/2006 02:54:33 PM · #48
Originally posted by steveh552:
...on a 33.6 dial up, do you know how long it would take to send?

About 1/2 hour, unfortunately. Everyone is in the same boat, though, and you can start it and walk away for a while. We do require an original, and a JPEG conversion of the RAW file is no longer an original.
An option for the future is to shoot RAW+small JPEG. That JPEG *would be* an original. Doing this can save you tons of upload time for submission of originals.

Edit: Damn, I'm slow!

Message edited by author 2006-08-16 14:55:13.
 08/16/2006 02:57:04 PM · #49
Just in case anyone else wants to be instulted :-)
 08/16/2006 03:17:20 PM · #50
All this because of an assumption that it was indeed the duplicate layering that was the reason for the Validation Request, Could it posibly have been one of the blind people that are usually the first ones to vote on alot of my photos ? I wouldn't rule them out. lol
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