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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/03/2006 06:30:20 PM · #3

Do you mean fuzzier than with other programs, or just not as good as you're used to seeing them on your computer?

No slideshow/photo I have ever seen on a normal TV screen looks as good as on a computer monitor, they simply don't have enough resolution.

jemison

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/03/2006 06:31:42 PM · #4

Originally posted by tjandjwsmith:

There are two quality places to check in the Output Options...the one in the upper left area that has to do with the DVD output format options as well as the lower right area for Video output options. If your show isn't more than an hour long set the DVD Output Format to DVD HQ. Also try setting the Video Output Options Encoding Quality to High. Other than that I can't think of what might be causing your problem. What size and format are the images?

Also, when you are ready to record it set the recording speed to the slowest it will let you. Same for when you record dupes from your master...slower recording speeds I find to be less problematic.

Message edited by author 2006-08-03 18:32:51.

08/03/2006 08:04:01 PM · #5

Watch the DVD on your TV --- *not* on your computer.

TV's have a very low resolution. And the slideshow will be recorded at that low resolution. Trust me, it'll look great on the TV.

The trouble is, on the computer you are accustomed to seeing things at 1024x768 (or perhaps even larger) and that just far and away beyond anything a normal TV can show. So viewing a DVD on a computer is like watching a low-resolution film.

If you want to watch it on the computer, then have it ALSO create an EXE version of the slideshow and put that on the DVD. Then you can watch the EXE version to see full resolution.

Makka

08/03/2006 08:09:29 PM · #6

If all your settings are up high the only thing I can think of is you're starting out with low resolution pictures. I know when I put the file together and I'm setting up the transitions etc that they can look a bit fuzzy on screen, I daresay the program uses a low resolution version of the photo perhaps when editing but once it's burnt to DVD it looks fantastic!

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

08/03/2006 08:23:29 PM · #7

Originally posted by dwterry:

I've done a couple that look great on TV but then when they were used with a data projector they looked terrible, I assumed it was the data projector. Has anyone got any hints on how to edit a show that is going to be used in a data projector?

08/03/2006 08:43:49 PM · #8

Originally posted by keegbow:

Same thing. Watch the EXE version on the data projector - because your projector is at a much higher resolution than a standard TV.

(btw, none of this discussion involves HDTV - which, even though "high resolution" for TV, still does not catch up to computer resolution)

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/03/2006 08:45:42 PM · #9

By the way, I run a slide show (via projector and an 8' screen) at my wedding receptions. I show the images taken at the wedding earlier in the day. So partly because I am showing images that are only a couple of hours old (and haven't had time to convert to video and burn to DVD) and partly because I like the higher resolution of the computer, I run my slideshow off the computer at the reception. (edit: this is in EXE format)

Then I sell them a DVD later which they can run on their TV at home.

Message edited by author 2006-08-03 20:54:00.

jemison

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

08/03/2006 09:07:12 PM · #10

Originally posted by dwterry:

Wow! Do you have time to do any editing/purging of files prior to showing? Do you shoot raw+jpg and show the jpg or what? I think I'd have a tough time even viewing all the shots prior to the reception (although on second thought most of the shots are actually done at the reception for most of the weddings I do - admittedly not very many). What is your workflow for that?

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

08/03/2006 09:15:43 PM · #11

Originally posted by dwterry:

Originally posted by keegbow:
I've done a couple that look great on TV but then when they were used with a data projector they looked terrible, I assumed it was the data projector. Has anyone got any hints on how to edit a show that is going to be used in a data projector?

Same thing. Watch the EXE version on the data projector - because your projector is at a much higher resolution than a standard TV.

(btw, none of this discussion involves HDTV - which, even though "high resolution" for TV, still does not catch up to computer resolution)

Thanks David, I will try that, do you resize at all or keep everything as large and high res as possible.

08/04/2006 12:17:14 AM · #12

Originally posted by jemison:

Wow! Do you have time to do any editing/purging of files prior to showing? Do you shoot raw+jpg and show the jpg or what?

Admittedly, it's a scramble to get it ready. I take my laptop with me to the wedding and process in between the wedding and reception. Here in Utah, the two are often separated by several hours. The wedding tomorrow, for example, is at 12:30. I'll be busy with the couple until about 2:30. From then until about 5pm I have to process the files (RawShooter Premium) and put them into the slideshow (ProShow Gold) which, up to this point, consists of the engagement pictures and the bridals.

I've already laid everything out, it's just a matter of picking which raw images to process and then copy them into the slideshow. Most of my time is spent picking and processing. Luckily, RSP is pretty quick, both in the user interface and in the processing.

08/04/2006 12:18:38 AM · #13

Originally posted by keegbow:

do you resize at all or keep everything as large and high res as possible.

I used to resize the images, thinking it was saving me time by dealing with smaller images. But ProShow Gold deals with it already and it took too long to resize anyway. So now I just let RSP convert the raw images to full size jpegs and away I go.

leaf

08/07/2006 02:04:49 PM · #14

so is there any way to create a nice large res slide show for the computer AND the tv?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/07/2006 02:13:03 PM · #15

Originally posted by leaf:

so is there any way to create a nice large res slide show for the computer AND the tv?

If you mean, can both the TV and the computer show high-res - the answer is no. TV's aren't high-res devices (I think they are something like about 704x528 or something like that).

If you mean, can you put both the low-res TV version and the high-res Computer version (EXE) on the same DVD, then I believe the answer is yes. But I can't remember if PSG did this on its own or if I created a RW DVD first and then copied the EXE to it.

LindaLee

Canon EOS-40D

08/07/2006 03:39:53 PM · #16

Originally posted by leaf:

so is there any way to create a nice large res slide show for the computer AND the tv?

I create all my DVD slideshows in ProShow Producer, and they play beautifully on TV and on computer. I have had no problems at all. On the TV, they are not as crisp and sharp as the computer, but they are still pretty darned good.

We routinely project DVD slideshows made with PSP onto a large screen at our church, and they still look great.

BTW, customer support at Photodex has been phenomenal for the few kinks I've run into. They have always responded quickly, and thoroughly.

leaf

08/09/2006 04:37:50 AM · #17

i looked on their site and saw that the biggest difference (for me anyhow) between pro show gold and pro sho producer was that producer had better encryption for copy protection. How is it different, or better?