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08/03/2006 10:27:55 AM · #101
I have been asked by security at JFK and Dulles not to take pictures.

Also on tours of certain DC buildings there are certain rooms you are not allowed to photograph anymore.

I think they must be onto me because now I always get patted down at airport security now.

Oy.
08/03/2006 10:32:27 AM · #102
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by aboutimage:

All you need is a business name, lanyard, plastic card holder, and a nicely printed card that states you are PRESS with your company's name.

Brilliant! I'm heading down to the airport...


;-P

Edit to add: The funny thing is that this would probably actually work to keep security off my back. LOL


HAHAHAH this is too f'ing good. I want one of those too! :) Guess my quarter lebanese herritage would serve me well here! I just gotta grow out the osama fluff on my chin!
08/03/2006 10:39:22 AM · #103
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by eschelar:

No problem Art. I'm always there to get your back....

Or stab it... Whatever takes my fancy... ;)

Careful Keiran, all this Glock talk has got me considering packing a sidearm myself - just so as not to feel left out.


Yeah you are so right. From now on, when I go to shoot photos at the airport, ill take my glock. Might throw in the good ol remington too!
08/03/2006 11:20:42 AM · #104
The sidewalk likely wasn't public property, rather private (the airports). So same rules that apply when taking pictures on someone's private property. They can ask you to stop. I know the normally rules about sidewalks being public property, but airports normally are not. A few years ago we almost had an airport strike and the picketers had to be off airport property, that meant over a mile from the terminal. Everything else was legally their property.

Now in the US they have ADDIONAL rules about taking pictures of anything with a security rating/problem/whatever. And a whole other set of rules apply in addition to the above.

Oh and after 9/11 the airport I worked at the time took down all the parking stall signs that said reserved for foreign diplomants :-) etc...

I do agree that security/police make judgement calls based on how someone looks (which is unfair, but whoever told you life was fair was selling or on something). I am an over 30, bonus sized lady, and I can even take picture of children without anyone questioning what navarious purposes I might have. Sad but true that people judge based on what their experence they have had with people who look simular and in this day and age a lot of their "experience" is based solely on tv/movies etc... not even actually having a realy experience (bad or otherwise) with a member of another race/creed/etc...



Message edited by author 2006-08-03 11:37:24.
08/03/2006 12:43:58 PM · #105
Hey, nothing too special, but two shots from my little foray into geurilla photography...



08/03/2006 12:56:28 PM · #106
What bugs me about this is that it seems to be SLR photographers being singled out. Surely the highly organised terrorist units would simply buy a disposable camera and use that? Or get a james bond style conceled camera.

Le sigh.
08/03/2006 01:02:20 PM · #107
Gee! That's not bad.



Go back and take some more!
08/03/2006 01:57:37 PM · #108
It all depends on the person/security guard and the day...

I shoot occasioanlly in Times Square and only 2 out of 7 times have I been saked to stop. I fully cooperate without question.



JFK is a super sensitive area that is constantly under threat. Occasionally internal security take photo's themselves to show leeks in the system where terrorists might also be looking. DSLR owners are singled out which does seem silly because any camera can do the job and most likely terrorists are using P&S's to begin with.
08/03/2006 03:34:12 PM · #109
Originally posted by muckpond:

Originally posted by khdoss:

blah blah blah


and that's saying something 'cause you guys are SHADY! :P

(ps -- when the hell did you get a d2x?)


oh blah to you too.. Gots me a big girl camera now,, and my scores have fallen as quickly as my credit card balance have risen.
Sorry back to topic..

Message edited by author 2006-08-04 15:07:26.
08/03/2006 03:46:27 PM · #110
Originally posted by pawdrix:


JFK is a super sensitive area that is constantly under threat. Occasionally internal security take photo's themselves to show leeks in the system ...


Steve, do you have food on the brain or what? For myself, I prefer systems with shallots in them...

R.
08/03/2006 03:53:28 PM · #111
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by pawdrix:


JFK is a super sensitive area that is constantly under threat. Occasionally internal security take photo's themselves to show leeks in the system ...


Steve, do you have food on the brain or what? For myself, I prefer systems with shallots in them...

R.

I once found I had too much cabbage in my system. Wasn't pretty.
08/03/2006 04:00:01 PM · #112
JFK Airport
08/03/2006 04:03:43 PM · #113
Originally posted by srdanz:

JFK Airport


HA! Take that Mr.Tin Star!

:-P
08/03/2006 04:11:43 PM · #114
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Originally posted by srdanz:

JFK Airport


HA! Take that Mr.Tin Star!

:-P
08/03/2006 04:13:18 PM · #115
Doh!
08/03/2006 04:13:44 PM · #116
Originally posted by pawdrix:

DSLR owners are singled out which does seem silly because any camera can do the job and most likely terrorists are using P&S's to begin with.

Is it because terrorists don't like doing post-processing on their shots? - Or they just don't need the DOF and burst mode of dSLR?
08/03/2006 04:40:31 PM · #117
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by pawdrix:


JFK is a super sensitive area that is constantly under threat. Occasionally internal security take photo's themselves to show leeks in the system ...


Steve, do you have food on the brain or what? For myself, I prefer systems with shallots in them...

R.


Eye do that all the thyme. No idea why.

Seriously ,I tend to slip any possible spelling of words that sound alike through all too often. There's a definite separation between between syntax or my general thought process and my fingers. Editing for me could be a full time position.

A few months back another friend jumped all over my shit for writing him an all grilled "Sole Food" menu.



Message edited by author 2006-08-03 17:05:00.
08/03/2006 06:06:10 PM · #118
Originally posted by pawdrix:

A few months back another friend jumped all over my shit for writing him an all grilled "Sole Food" menu.

The Gold Rush (1925) is the quintessential Chaplin/Little Tramp film, with a balance of slapstick comedy and pantomime, social satire, and emotional and dramatic moments of tenderness. It was Chaplin's own personal favorite film ...

Classic scenes include the starvation scene of two cabin-marooned prospectors boiling and fastidiously eating a stewed shoe ...
08/03/2006 06:12:36 PM · #119
Originally posted by pawdrix:


A few months back another friend jumped all over my shit for writing him an all grilled "Sole Food" menu.


Grilled Sole sounds yummy...
08/03/2006 06:24:35 PM · #120
Just a note back on the original topic. There may be some buildings, such as newer airports, where there may be some copyright restrictions on the building, that is, it is legal to photograph the building, but you may not be able to commercially exploit the image, for example by posting as a stock image or printing up T-shirts.
08/03/2006 06:30:20 PM · #121
Originally posted by pawdrix:





Oh Steve how I love the Fish eye lens of yours. I want a Nikon! Just so I can borrow it sometime.

Seriouslly though NYCPD are much nicer and understanding then PAPD and PIC security guards(using that term lightly on the later they mostly are assholes.)
08/03/2006 09:54:55 PM · #122
Originally posted by GeneralE:

There may be some buildings, such as newer airports, where there may be some copyright restrictions on the building, that is, it is legal to photograph the building, but you may not be able to commercially exploit the image, for example by posting as a stock image or printing up T-shirts.

it is important, also, to understand that there is a difference between editorial stock use and commercial stock use. even images of copyrighted buildings may be sold for publication in newspapers, magazines, textbooks, etc, as long as the published use is 'content' and not 'advertising'.

Message edited by author 2006-08-03 21:55:30.
08/03/2006 10:03:52 PM · #123
Originally posted by skiprow:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

There may be some buildings, such as newer airports, where there may be some copyright restrictions on the building, that is, it is legal to photograph the building, but you may not be able to commercially exploit the image, for example by posting as a stock image or printing up T-shirts.

it is important, also, to understand that there is a difference between editorial stock use and commercial stock use. even images of copyrighted buildings may be sold for publication in newspapers, magazines, textbooks, etc, as long as the published use is 'content' and not 'advertising'.


What is the difference?
08/03/2006 10:06:12 PM · #124
Originally posted by dleach:

Originally posted by skiprow:

there is a difference between editorial stock use and commercial stock use. even images of copyrighted buildings may be sold for publication in newspapers, magazines, textbooks, etc, as long as the published use is 'content' and not 'advertising'.


What is the difference?

you do not have to have a model release for editorial content. newspapers can print a photo of you without your permission. a magazine can print a photo of a brand-new airport without the airport's permission.

on the other hand, i cannot sell a photo of you to an ad agency to use for an ad campaign for one of their pharmacuetical clients without your written permission (ie, a model release).

this is why stock agencies are able to charge more for model-released images than for non-model-released images...

Message edited by author 2006-08-03 22:10:33.
08/03/2006 10:38:52 PM · #125
Originally posted by tapeworm_jimmy:

I just gotta grow out the osama fluff on my chin!


Speaking of Osama; the BBC has an interesting documentary you may be interested in. Gives some insights into why we have all this security.

//video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1002626006461047517&q=bbc+neo

There's 3 parts to it.
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