Gold Underrated?!?!?! - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/31/2006 10:18:30 AM · #1

I feel my shot was highly underrated, can someone please give me a stab at telling me why?

My average commenters was 6.6 - which I feel is more like how the voting should have went with this picture.

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 10:19:11.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

07/31/2006 10:20:14 AM · #2

5.3 for shot of a yellow flower in a gold challenge? Pretty damn good!

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

07/31/2006 10:22:28 AM · #3

Originally posted by routerguy666:

5.3 for shot of a yellow flower in a gold challenge? Pretty damn good!

I don't think this is any normal flower shot Jack...look at the layering in this photo between the sky, petals, interior of the flower, etc. DOF is spot on...

talj

Canon EOS-40D

07/31/2006 10:24:07 AM · #4

Originally posted by specialk0783:

Originally posted by routerguy666:
5.3 for shot of a yellow flower in a gold challenge? Pretty damn good!

I don't think this is any normal flower shot Jack...look at the layering in this photo between the sky, petals, interior of the flower, etc. DOF is spot on...

I would have to agree with RouterGuy here that the main issue of the image is it is yellow, not Gold IMHO

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 10:25:48.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/31/2006 10:24:32 AM · #5

That's great. Yellow is still not gold.

otisXmike

Canon EOS-30D

07/31/2006 10:35:57 AM · #6

My opinion...

it isn't technically gold, it's yellow... which is going to hurt you with the voters right there.

In the bottom left corner, there is a "weird" transition between 2 shades of yellow that looks like an effect of post processing. There's another area that looks a little off to me as well, the area of the longest petal (towards the upper left)... those 2 petals don't have the same quality of blurriness that the surrounding ones have. Maybe they are just more curved in towards the camera than the others?

again... Just my opinion

marvin

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8

07/31/2006 10:42:23 AM · #7

Strange thread. "Why dont I get higher score?"
Well everybody can ask the same question. If you are satisfied with your photo then I think your mission is accomplished. Some just have had enough of flowers and bees, no matter how good they are.
My advice is just enjoy your good work.

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 10:42:41.

Bolti

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/31/2006 10:49:34 AM · #8

I just think the DOF throws this off more then the Gold vs. Yellow thing does.

otisXmike

Canon EOS-30D

07/31/2006 10:52:28 AM · #9

Originally posted by marvin:

My advice is just enjoy your good work.

I COMPLETELY agree... I can prove it if you look at my gold photo :) .

marvin

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8

07/31/2006 11:37:06 AM · #10

Originally posted by otisXmike:

Originally posted by marvin:
My advice is just enjoy your good work.

I COMPLETELY agree... I can prove it if you look at my gold photo :) .

I did take a look. Great humor! :)

magenmarie

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

07/31/2006 12:04:45 PM · #11

I thought it was fantastic! I voted 10. :)

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

07/31/2006 02:36:15 PM · #12

First, let me suggest that you try posing your question a little more humbly than "my picture rocked, why don't you all know that?" :)

I voted it a 6, which for me means "it meets the challenge, and it's got a little zing, but not much." No zing = 5. More and more zing goes from 7-10.

Had the bee been crystal clear, it might've gotten a 7.

There's a lot of personal taste in voting, too, and you're never going to get 10s from everyone, no matter what. My favorites sometimes win, sometimes are in top 10 or 20, and sometimes are nowhere near the top. I gave the winning photos a 7, 6, and 6 in that order.

To help you get higher votes FROM ME in the future, here's my favorite from this challenge (it got 19th place):

Of my 8s, 9s, and 10s, the highest got 19th place.

So I agree, ultimately, with others in this thread: are YOU happy with it? Was it the best you could do (not just in a technical sense, but in the sense of the time you had, the idea you had, and also the technical skills you had)? Did you learn anything while doing it?

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 14:37:02.

Olympus 14-54mm f/2.8-3.5 Zuiko Digital Zoom

07/31/2006 08:39:38 PM · #13

I didn't know people were going to be so bent on it actually being "gold" - yellow is referred to many times as "gold" in different aspects of life.

Really, I just don't feel that it deserves the 1's, 2's, 3's, or 4's that it got, thats all. I guess thats life on DPC though, people who have no idea what they are voting on.

MQuinn

Olympus OM-D E-M1

07/31/2006 08:48:34 PM · #14

Originally posted by specialk0783:

Dude, stick around learn, and improve:) It was yellow, the focal plane is a little in front of the Bee, so its not quite crisp on the bee. The bee also is barely visible, so it kinda throws off what is supposed to be the focal point. 5.3 is a pretty respectable score for this picture.

LucidLotus

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

07/31/2006 08:50:21 PM · #15

Or its just full of people who didn't agree with your version of gold.

I was one of the 4s. I didn't find it visually interesting to me. The lighting was decent but I didn't like the shallow DOF. While I realize it was used to highlight the bee, the huge chunk of blur in the bottom right-hand corner was a distraction and something that didn't please my eye.

I also didn't like the pale blue sky and would've rathered a more deeper blue to offer just that much more contrast - whether this was attainable by a polarizer or not I couldn't say since I wasn't there, but that's my preference all the same.

And for complete disclosure I would've actually found the image MUCH more interesting (though still not completely a tie to gold) if all it was was those wonderfully soft-focused petals against the sky. That portion has a delightful abstract quality to it that I could see a vote of a 6 going for. As it is now.. ehn. Just another flower/bee photo to me.

Luckily we're all experts of our own opinions and mine is just as legitimate as others. I hope this helps you understand my "low" vote even though I didn't have the time to go through and comment at the time.

:)

Ecce_Signum

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/31/2006 08:58:59 PM · #16

I didn't vote on the gold challenge but this would have been a 4 from me. The fact that its yellow not gold would not have swayed my score but it doesn't appeal to me and the petals have some hard colour change lines on my monitor. Your average vote given is 4.1586 and using the same criteria I'd be interested to know how you would score it? (I'm thinking it should be a lower score than you received)

2Shay

Nikon Z7 FX

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

07/31/2006 09:34:49 PM · #17

Originally posted by specialk0783:

I didn't know people were going to be so bent on it actually being "gold" - yellow is referred to many times as "gold" in different aspects of life.

It seems that in your scoring of this challenge you were "bent" on it actually being "gold". 5 of your comments included statements essentially asking "Where is the gold"?

Realize that a photo here must be interesting to a wide variety of people, what you think is wonderful, is not necessarily wonderful to all. I think it is a nice photo, but not outstanding. Had I been voting in this challenge, I most likely would have given it a 5. The petals of the flowers have strange "auras" around them that makes the photo look unnatural to me.

Your average score given of 4.1586 tells me that you are pretty critical of photos that you vote on. I think you should be happy with your score as 77% of the 177 votes were a 5 or above.

Just my 2cents

Jason_Cross

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/31/2006 10:04:11 PM · #18

Originally posted by routerguy666:

5.3 for shot of a yellow flower in a gold challenge? Pretty damn good!

I have a hard time getting 5.3. I agree, pretty good.

Rebecca

Nikon D80

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5- 5.6G ED DX

07/31/2006 10:24:54 PM · #19

Originally posted by specialk0783:

Ahh yes, insult the voters. That wins you points. The challenge was "gold". How much clearer could it get? Photos that score well generally don't deviate much, if at all, from the challenge description. I was lenient on the interpretation, but most voters are not.

Your first fatal flaw is that it's a flower, and DPC is pretty flowered out. Your second is that it was a shade of yellow more commonly thought of as yellow than as gold, so the photo looks like a stretch. A stretch, with yet another boring flower. And extreme DoF rarely works well for macro, so that particular aesthetic is against you as well.

Dude, you've been nothing but ego since you got here. None of us, including you, are the end all be all of photography. The human race has varied tastes, and it's not always going to suit you. Chill out! Relax! Have a margarita!

Jason_Cross

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

08/01/2006 12:47:01 AM · #20

karmabreeze just put in to words what we were all thinking... Have a margarita.

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

08/01/2006 12:52:23 AM · #21

Originally posted by specialk0783:

I guess thats life on DPC though, people who have no idea what they are voting on.

Sigh. So I guess your answer to "did you learn anything while doing it" is to assume the voters are idiots and not entitled to their opinions.

Oh, well.

Back to spending my time on people who actually want answers when they ask for help improving their pictures.

bood

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/01/2006 01:22:58 AM · #22

Its a very good picture but it would have to be a very special golden bee on a very special golden flower to get anymore than 6.

Jason_Cross

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

08/01/2006 01:48:48 AM · #23

Originally posted by bood:

Its a very good picture but it would have to be a very special golden bee on a very special golden flower to get anymore than 6.

Maybe if it was that golden honey nut cheerio's bee. That would be cool.

LucidLotus

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

08/01/2006 01:54:46 AM · #24

Mmm honey nut cheerios...

I'd probably have a 7 ready in that case. ;)