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07/21/2006 12:06:22 AM · #1 |
what do you do when your horizon is off by 1/2 a degree? It comes up a lot for me. I can rotate one degree this way and it looks tilted one way, and if i leave it the way it is, it looks tilted the other way. And it *is* noticeable and detracts in both full-size or small sized versions.
Any tips?
Message edited by author 2006-07-21 00:07:55. |
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07/21/2006 12:08:24 AM · #2 |
0.5 With PS you can use fractions of a degree in decimil. What editing software are you using?
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07/21/2006 08:34:52 AM · #3 |
Let me be the first in the thread to say...use a spirit level when taking the picture and avoid having to fix it in Photoshop :)
Otherwise, I agree with Cindi.
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07/21/2006 08:38:34 AM · #4 |
You can also use the ruler tool in PS. Use ruler to draw a line along the actual horizon. Select "Image -> Rotate Canvas -> Arbitray" This will pull up a window that has the reading taken by the ruler tool. Hit OK and you're horizon will be leveled.
Edit: I shoot a lot of "uneven" photos! ;-)
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07/21/2006 08:55:20 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Palmetto_Pixels:
You can also use the ruler tool in PS. Use ruler to draw a line along the actual horizon. Select "Image -> Rotate Canvas -> Arbitray" This will pull up a window that has the reading taken by the ruler tool. Hit OK and you're horizon will be leveled.
Edit: I shoot a lot of "uneven" photos! ;-) |
Oohh, I didn't know it could do this. Very cool - should be a lot easier than adjusting the rotation by .1 all the time to try and get it perfect.
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07/21/2006 09:07:36 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
Oohh, I didn't know it could do this. Very cool - should be a lot easier than adjusting the rotation by .1 all the time to try and get it perfect. |
It's a tip I picked up from Bear_Music... I use it ALL the time. You should check his post-processing tips thread, lots of great information in there.
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07/21/2006 09:18:02 AM · #7 |
Photoshop elements 2.0 has the ability to rotate small amounts via the "custom" option on the edit selection.
Not sure about the Rebel, however the D70 has the ability to place a "3rds" matrix in the veiwfinder which I find helpful for subject placement and aligning horizons. Also some tripods have bubble levels to assist with alignment, given you are not using a ball head.
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07/21/2006 09:39:12 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Twyla:
what do you do when your horizon is off by 1/2 a degree? It comes up a lot for me. I can rotate one degree this way and it looks tilted one way, and if i leave it the way it is, it looks tilted the other way. And it *is* noticeable and detracts in both full-size or small sized versions.
Any tips? |
Link to an example and you could probably get more specific advice. |
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07/21/2006 09:56:00 AM · #9 |
| Anyone catch this morning's New York Times? Big picture of a marine standing in front of a transport coming up on the beach. First thing I notice in the shot - horizon tilted like a mofo ;). |
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07/21/2006 11:17:08 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by idnic:
0.5 With PS you can use fractions of a degree in decimil. What editing software are you using? |
really? Everytime I have tried that, PS tells me "please enter a value between 1 and - whatever the upper value is". Using PS7 because its all I can afford (got it free with something a million years ago) and the PSE that I got with the camera seems very limited in comparison. |
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07/21/2006 11:32:28 AM · #11 |
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07/21/2006 12:43:26 PM · #12 |
| faidoi: i think you missed the point here. We all know how to do this, the problem comes when this isn't good enough because of a partial degree of offness with a program that won't let you rotate by partial degrees. |
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07/21/2006 12:47:24 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Twyla:
faidoi: i think you missed the point here. We all know how to do this, the problem comes when this isn't good enough because of a partial degree of offness with a program that won't let you rotate by partial degrees. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that tutorial made in PS7?
I also used to use PS7, and I'm sure I used to be able to rotate less than 1 degree? Weird that you can't...
Message edited by author 2006-07-21 12:47:57.
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07/21/2006 11:19:15 PM · #14 |
I don't know.
I just know that when I try to rotate with the "arbitrary" function to a partial or fractional degree I get an error message that says "please enter a value between 1 and the upper limit" |
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07/21/2006 11:24:37 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Mustardhead:
Let me be the first in the thread to say...use a spirit level when taking the picture and avoid having to fix it in Photoshop :)
Otherwise, I agree with Cindi.
Roger |
Man, those things are expensive.
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07/22/2006 12:06:55 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Twyla:
I don't know.
I just know that when I try to rotate with the "arbitrary" function to a partial or fractional degree I get an error message that says "please enter a value between 1 and the upper limit" |
In Photoshop 5 you can enter down to 1/100th (0.01) of a degree, using the Image > Rotate Canvas > Arbitrary ... dialog. |
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07/22/2006 12:15:46 AM · #17 |
PS 7.0 allows rotation to .01 degrees. I know, it's what I use. Id it's telling you to provide 1 degree or more, something is very wrong; 1 degree is a LOT of rotation, at least where I come from. I don't know when's the last time I missed a horizon by that much...
R.
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07/24/2006 08:16:29 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by faidoi:
Originally posted by Mustardhead:
Let me be the first in the thread to say...use a spirit level when taking the picture and avoid having to fix it in Photoshop :)
Otherwise, I agree with Cindi.
Roger |
Man, those things are expensive. |
About ten pounds here for one that slots into a hotshoe, presumably less than ten dollars the other side of the Pond. Cheap compared to the rest of the equipment....
Roger |
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07/24/2006 08:46:36 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Twyla:
I don't know.
I just know that when I try to rotate with the "arbitrary" function to a partial or fractional degree I get an error message that says "please enter a value between 1 and the upper limit" |
You might try removing and re-installing your photoshop program.
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07/24/2006 12:04:19 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
PS 7.0 allows rotation to .01 degrees. I know, it's what I use. Id it's telling you to provide 1 degree or more, something is very wrong; 1 degree is a LOT of rotation, at least where I come from. I don't know when's the last time I missed a horizon by that much... |
Its done this ever since I got it (required a whole number value in there). I've had it installed several times after various crashes and whatnot of my computer and its always the same. I just don't understand it. |
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07/24/2006 12:05:23 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Twyla:
what do you do when your horizon is off by 1/2 a degree? |
At my age... I simply go with the flow...hehehehe :O)
Ray |
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06/06/2007 05:30:34 AM · #22 |
There is a setting in the camera to set the horizon? I notice if I tilt the camera to the left the horizon "looks" level.
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06/06/2007 05:37:29 AM · #23 |
| you could try duplicating your background, turning your grid on (Control+') and using free transform put the horizon on a grid line straighten to that line and then move your photo back in place. its a workaround that takes a little more time but would get the job done. weird about your degrees. |
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06/06/2007 09:19:22 AM · #24 |
| I upload and store all my pics in Picasa (google's free organizer). It's got a "straighten" slider bar that rotates the picture against a grid. I find this much easier and more intuitive than rotating it in PS. I've just started using the ruler thing, but I still like Picasa's best. |
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06/06/2007 10:08:26 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Twyla:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
PS 7.0 allows rotation to .01 degrees. I know, it's what I use. Id it's telling you to provide 1 degree or more, something is very wrong; 1 degree is a LOT of rotation, at least where I come from. I don't know when's the last time I missed a horizon by that much... |
Its done this ever since I got it (required a whole number value in there). I've had it installed several times after various crashes and whatnot of my computer and its always the same. I just don't understand it. |
Check for a parameter setting that allows you to set the precision. Or reset to defaults to see if that clears things up. |
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