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12/28/2006 06:45:53 AM · #26
For all people who can't afford a "proper" flash:

I just bought this from ebay. I put an old flash on it, and now the D50's flash triggers that one. No auto stuff (preflash fires it early, and anyway metering would be way off because the D50 doesn't take the newcomer into account for exposure) but I think this is a good thing as I'm forced to learn more. I set the internal flash to 1/16 power to contribute very little to the exposure (I shoot 1/160,f8-f11). It helps if you can dial the slave down at will but if not just move it further away. I just started playing, have lots to learn but ceiling bounced flash for portraits looks 10 times better than the harsh head-on I used to get before.

Total spending - £10

(I'd love a SB600 but Christmas is so far away) :)

Harry
12/28/2006 03:13:52 PM · #27
Lets see pictures of fill-in flash techniques

Bruce

Originally posted by hsolakidis:

For all people who can't afford a "proper" flash:

I just bought this from ebay. I put an old flash on it, and now the D50's flash triggers that one. No auto stuff (preflash fires it early, and anyway metering would be way off because the D50 doesn't take the newcomer into account for exposure) but I think this is a good thing as I'm forced to learn more. I set the internal flash to 1/16 power to contribute very little to the exposure (I shoot 1/160,f8-f11). It helps if you can dial the slave down at will but if not just move it further away. I just started playing, have lots to learn but ceiling bounced flash for portraits looks 10 times better than the harsh head-on I used to get before.

Total spending - £10

(I'd love a SB600 but Christmas is so far away) :)

Harry

12/28/2006 06:21:11 PM · #28
Originally posted by alfresco:

fyi - Yes the D70 has rear curtain sync.


I think its a good tip.. NOT THAT CLEVER myself..

Im a bit simple when it comes to things like using rear curtain shutters..

Would be cool to see examples

Bruce
12/28/2006 06:43:04 PM · #29
ok, here's my lame one - just in thought of supporting this great thread



I have a wireless flash up on a stand firing into an umbrella to "fill" from the upper right of this photo. The left is completely windows facing north with snow as far as the eye can see. My "fill" seems to have overpowered my main light in this instance.

I had 4 hours in this $2 million house to get 8-10 shots with amateur models and two kid models (ages 5 and 7). I was NOT in a place where I could really think about the exposure and what my camera was doing. So with an SB800 on my camera controling 1 or 2 SB600s remotely, I just shot and if it looked pretty good on my camera, I moved on...

I've added the "warm" light in post - to match the layout of the site and the brochure that these are going into:

Here's the site in process...

site under construction

Message edited by author 2006-12-28 18:44:20.
12/28/2006 07:10:37 PM · #30
Since this seems to be a fashion photo styled thread I thought I could add a couple of my model shots ;)

#1. Onboard pop up


More seriously ;)

#2.

This pic was taken in a dark room, door opened to provide light coming from the right, and my strobe bounced off a 24x36 piece of foamcore to give a little fill to the left side of the frame.

BTW, I have used the bounce flash off a gold reflector with nice warm results. Exposure calculations and balancing cause me trouble though, especially when I don't have time to test shoot.

I've tried different diffusers for my flash head. One that worked in a pinch was Kleenex, folded and taped over the head. It softened it somewhat.

thanks for the good tips.

Mark
01/27/2007 06:19:54 AM · #31
You can achieve lovely soft bounced light by turning your on camera flash head to the side when your shooting and bound the flash of a small reflector high up to your site, with help of an assistant or just attach a reflector to a small stand. The reflector needs to be c45 degree angle to your subject and yourself.

I have used this method when shooting interior fashion on location. See picture. My flash was pointed towartd net curtains to the left of the shot.



Message edited by author 2007-01-27 06:21:51.
01/27/2007 07:36:35 AM · #32
You need to be careful to allow some of the ambient light to show detail in the areas too far away for you bounced flash to reach because of the inverse square law. (light from a point sourse falls off in proportion to the square root of the unit distance to the sourse). To do this, set your aperture for your flash exposure and your shutter speed (at this aperture)to allow enough ambient light to hit these areas that would be in shadow.. These are good reasons to learn how to shoot manualy.
01/27/2007 07:51:35 AM · #33
Well this is nowhere near what you do with lighting Bruce, but I love
using natural lighting and fill flash - it's is the only way to go:

Aperture: f/13.0
ISO: 100
Shutter: 1/200
Manual exposure mode
pop-up fill flash at -1EV,
75mm focal length, no sharpening, no noise reduction

More in here
01/27/2007 08:04:15 AM · #34
Originally posted by BradP:

Well this is nowhere near what you do with lighting Bruce, but I love
using natural lighting and fill flash - it's is the only way to go:

Aperture: f/13.0
ISO: 100
Shutter: 1/200
Manual exposure mode
pop-up fill flash at -1EV,
75mm focal length, no sharpening, no noise reduction

More in here


Lovely picture of mum and child.. Nice to see a manual shooter.

:-)

Message edited by author 2007-01-27 08:04:34.
01/27/2007 01:51:47 PM · #35
One of my fav ways of lighting is to shoot straight into the sun to get that great burst from the sun's glare. I just shut down to f22 and then adjust iso and flash distance from the subject - With the Nikon D2X you have a very limiting 1/250 max shutter sinc.

I really like the effect - Even when the subject blocks the light.
01/27/2007 02:03:10 PM · #36
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:

One of my fav ways of lighting is to shoot straight into the sun to get that great burst from the sun's glare. I just shut down to f22 and then adjust iso and flash distance from the subject - With the Nikon D2X you have a very limiting 1/250 max shutter sinc.

I really like the effect - Even when the subject blocks the light.


I LOVE those pictures - especially the last one. I like how bright the sun is, but that the sky isn't blown out. And then how bright the people are in spite of what could have been a silhouette without fill flash.

What flash are you using to be able to compete with the sun so effectively?

01/27/2007 02:04:51 PM · #37
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:

One of my fav ways of lighting is to shoot straight into the sun to get that great burst from the sun's glare.

Your images taken like this have been an inspiration Jeff.
01/27/2007 02:16:27 PM · #38
Originally posted by BruceSmith:

If your shooting late in the day with that beautiful gold contrasty light but its going as the sun goes down. ...

I had an assistant holding a 1mtr gold foil reflector up to the side of myself so if I aim a flash gun onto the reflector it would bounces lovely golden light onto my mode. I set the flash exposure to be approx 1 to 2 stops under the ambient reading taken from my models position.

This is one of the shots taken this way.

//homepage.mac.com/b.s/.Pictures/_DSC0381.jpg

I like the effect of color you achieved with this technique. Setting flash below ambient readings is the key. Genius thinking!
01/27/2007 05:33:54 PM · #39
The colour on the model is due to using a gold reflector to bounce flash off.

Thanks

Bruce
01/29/2007 04:41:06 AM · #40
Originally posted by dwterry:


What flash are you using to be able to compete with the sun so effectively?


I try to keep my flash set ups as simple as possible - I usually use one Dyna-Lite 400w portable flash with a soft box - It really is the most simple lighting. When shooting into the sun at f22 I have to use the flash on full power - But it is only a 400w so the flash tends to be just a few inches from the subject which is why you will find with most of my shots that they are taken very low with a wide angle - But that's just my thing. Most books or advice often tell you to avoid using wide lenses for portraits - To be honest it's my first choice!
Cheers
Jeff

Message edited by author 2007-01-29 04:41:28.
01/29/2007 06:49:15 AM · #41
Cool re wide angle. I love it for my fashion work.. I will use longer for closer shots.

Bruce


01/29/2007 06:49:57 AM · #42
Originally posted by BruceSmith:

Cool re wide angle. I love it for my fashion work.. I will use longer for closer shots.

Bruce


Tell me about the Dina lite, not heard of it.. Send me a link to where I can see it plus spec.
01/29/2007 04:03:36 PM · #43






Bruce. I am relatively new but here are a few I have done.

The first two:
Sunset. Light was changing quickly.
Camera to Av mode
50mm 1.8 set to an aperture of around 2.8 (if I remember). I was shooting close to the subject.
Canon 580EX on hotshoe with a Fong Lightsphere dome on pointed at subject. The Flash was set to high speed sync and I had exposure comp to -1.

The last one was shot mid day in full sun but I did something similar to the above without the negative exposure comp.
01/30/2007 04:23:37 AM · #44
The first 2 shots look great,

i love the use of differential focus (the use of depth of field limiting.

The first shot could be cropped better with more space on the side he is facing ie the left.

The second shot works better for me, it appears to have had some back but soft lighting I guess this is more apparent due to the darkening of the background in PG and the front fill-in is perfect.. The shot has charactor and depth. Looks like you have done some photoshop work on it which makes it hard to decide the shots merits. Let me see the origional.

The third shot is screaming at me because of the red maple background and the slightly over fill flash.

Great shots all the same.

Bruce

Message edited by author 2007-01-30 04:26:35.
02/10/2007 12:52:50 PM · #45
I have been asked by a member to give tutorials on DP challenge.

If you want this just select any of my images post it and I will explain in detail how it was shot and lit.

Bruce
02/16/2007 03:47:10 AM · #46
Come all you location shooters. Lets see your examples of fill-in flash pictures,

Share your pictures with every body so we can all learn how to get better.
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