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07/09/2006 01:06:06 AM · #1 |
I am looking to pull the plug on something much wider then my kit 17-55 thing. I have rolled-over on the cropped lens thing, so there are some options in addition to the Sigma...
#1 - Canon 10-22 f3.5-4.5
#2 - Tokina 12-24 f4
#3 - Tamrom 11-18 f4.5-5.6
#4 - Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6 (Only FF compat lens)
#5 - Sigma 10-20 f4.5-5.6
From all the reviews I have read it appears that the Canon and Tokina are the better of the lenses for image quality. I went and played with both of these today (the shop only had these 2) and the Tokina was FAR the nicer as far as build quality, smoothness of focus e.t.c. It's also $225 cheaper than the Canon (you have to add the hood for the Canon).
Finally the point: Which one of these do you have and why did you pick it? What do you love and what do you hate? |
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07/09/2006 01:19:30 AM · #2 |
| I've heard great things from tokina owners. I've also read reviews that say the 10-22 is better optically. They had examples of photos that were very in favor of the canon lens. The tokina is compaitible on a 1.25x sensor till about 15 or 16mm which is wider than 10mm on a 1.6x sensor. Just something to consider if you want a 1DmkII. Now as far as focusing i'm sure the canon is gonna win. Now the canon is a variable aperture lens but the tokina is a solid F4 all the way through. If i was going to buy one i'd get the tokina, but my friend bought the 10-22. I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do. I don't know if I helped but those are some of my oppionions and some of others transered through me ;-) |
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07/09/2006 01:23:10 AM · #3 |
I have the Canon 10-22. It is my favorite lens in my bag.
Message edited by author 2006-07-09 01:40:40. |
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07/09/2006 01:39:28 AM · #4 |
| I just got the Tok about a month ago and am very happy with it. Just out shooting tonight as a matter of fact... |
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07/09/2006 01:45:23 AM · #5 |
Canon 10-22 is the way I went Love the lense. Sharp. The one thing to conside is do you want the distortion from a wide angle if not then definately go with the Canon 10-22 it distorts at 10 less than any other lense due to the way they ground the glass. also it's glass is the same as in the l series just not the seals on the housing. One word of advice it is pricy and not as versital as one may think. I just bought the 28-135 is as my walk around lense.
Here is a few shots with the 10-22
 
Message edited by author 2006-07-09 01:50:21. |
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07/09/2006 02:05:12 AM · #6 |
I got to play with a 10-22mm at last months group shoot, I've been jonesin' for an ultrawide ever since.
I will most likely end up with the Sigma 10-20mm after all the comparisons and reviews I've been through...the only reason I would not get the Canon 10-22mm (right now) is the cost.
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07/09/2006 02:08:16 AM · #7 |
I'm completely sold on the 1022mm Canon, which I own. I am surprised by your buid quality comments; I have nothing negative to say about Canon's build quality on this lens. I am pleased it is as light as it is. Optically, especially regarding barrel distortion at 10mm (it doesn't have any to speak of), it's the clear front-runner. However, obviously a number of people love their Tokinas, and the price certainly is attractive.
Incidentally, I don't know how to Tokina performs here, but the Canon is astonishingly flare-free; it's quite stunning, actually. This is what really sold me on it. In wide-angle landscape work, flare is often a real problem.
Robt.
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07/09/2006 02:39:59 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I am surprised by your buid quality comments; I have nothing negative to say about Canon's build quality on this lens. |
I don't mean to imply the Canon is bad - it's a better build then the basic Canon consumer zooms. The Tokina was just super smooth on the manual focus (smoother then the 70-200f4 which I know you have) and the build was like the Canon L's, solid steel feel e.t.c.
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Optically, especially regarding barrel distortion at 10mm (it doesn't have any to speak of), it's the clear front-runner. However, obviously a number of people love their Tokinas, and the price certainly is attractive. |
That is the rub of course along with those extra 2mm. As much as I would prefer the Sigma 12-24 due to the ability to put on a full frame, it's not in the same class. I have seen some great shots from the Tokina also but your right that it does seem to have more distortion. On the third hand, I could really use to save that couple of hundred bucks :-)
Just the person actually: Do you (or anybody) know how to figure out how much (percentage wise I guess) needs to be cropped to get from a 10mm view to 12mm - I wanted to grab any old pics and just throw a crop in the middle to give me an idea of the area I am giving up with the 2mm for the Tokina? |
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07/09/2006 02:52:55 AM · #9 |
| I have the Tokina. It takes amazing photos with surprisingly little distortion. Excellent build quality, but I got a bad one from the store initially. A few people, including me, got Tokina 12-24's with an aperature problem. Mine wouldn't open back up after it stopped down for exposure, then I'd get an error 99, and have to toggle the power switch, got to AP mode, dial in 4.0 f-stop and hit the DOF Preview button to fix it. Every time. Unless of course I just shot in AP mode and leave it at f/4. Before this happened, and I'm sure after I get it back from the shop, this is an optically and physically outstanding lens. |
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07/11/2006 01:36:30 AM · #10 |
OK - I just told the nice people at B&H to put a package on the little brown truck - should be here Thursday when I get home from work. Ended up picking the Canon 10-22 [and I am officially blaming Bear, ok ;-)].
I would have preferred the feel of the Tokina (I actually loved the push-pull design of manual/auto focus, the weight and the smoothness over the Canon) but I deceided I would just regret the extra 2mm - figured since I was going wide, I might as well go w-i-d-e. 2mm at that end makes a BIG difference in all the examples and playing around I did. Besides, I am hoping that the extra $$ sting goes away after I pay the next credit card bill and it's just another month of dog food when I retire anyway :-)
Since neither are FF, I would have to sell anyway when I upgrade the body in a few years (my next body will also certainly be FF) but in the mean time this should be a fun lens. Have to learn a whole lot more no doubt to get used to something this wide.
I also threw in a hood for my beloved 85f1.8 (very hard to resist the good price B&H have on the 50f1.4 right now but my CC resisted for me) and a few Tamron lens caps so I can off most of the Canon versions :-))
Message edited by author 2006-07-11 01:38:37. |
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