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06/26/2006 06:49:05 PM · #26 |
| And police do a simple task to keep form being detected. They turn off their radar detector so yours will not pick it up then they turn on with a flip of a switch and you are caught. |
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06/26/2006 06:56:41 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by hsteg:
... I wouldnt need to spend 200 dollars on a ticket and 4 hours in some course. ... |
I think you got off easy. Can't they cite you for reckless driving for anything 20mph over the speed limit? For that they can put the cuffs on and haul you off to jail. At least that's what I've heard anyway. Someone else may know the actual details for Virginia - don't know anything about Florida... |
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06/26/2006 07:12:45 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by hsteg:
... I wouldnt need to spend 200 dollars on a ticket and 4 hours in some course. ... |
I think you got off easy. Can't they cite you for reckless driving for anything 20mph over the speed limit? For that they can put the cuffs on and haul you off to jail. At least that's what I've heard anyway. Someone else may know the actual details for Virginia - don't know anything about Florida... |
I wasnt driving recklessly, I was going fast, yes, but not weaving in and out of cars, tailgating or anything else wreckless.
Message edited by author 2006-06-26 19:32:14.
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06/26/2006 07:14:25 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by hsteg:
I wasnt driving wrecklessly, I was going fast, yes, but not weaving in and out of cars, tailgating or anything else wreckless. |
The difference between "reckless" and "wreckless" is significant in this context ... |
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06/26/2006 07:23:08 PM · #30 |
| The thing is, you were caught.. if you believ that you weren't going that fast, then by all means contest it, but know that the court usually schedules cases like these on the days the cop in question doesn't have trafic duty, so the chances of them not showing up are slim. And if you were going that fast, regardles of whether or not others were going thatfast, just pay the ticket... the cost of trying to get out of it would probably end up being as much or even more than if you just paid it. |
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06/26/2006 07:31:58 PM · #31 |
The local sheriff was sponsoring a demolition derby as a fundraiser for local driver education programs, however one young man had his entry application turned down on the grounds that he was too inexperienced.
Angrily, he confronted the sheriff himself and said, "I don't care what these officers say, I am not a wreckless driver!"
Message edited by author 2006-06-26 19:32:14. |
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06/26/2006 07:51:48 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by hsteg:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by hsteg:
... I wouldnt need to spend 200 dollars on a ticket and 4 hours in some course. ... |
I think you got off easy. Can't they cite you for reckless driving for anything 20mph over the speed limit? For that they can put the cuffs on and haul you off to jail. At least that's what I've heard anyway. Someone else may know the actual details for Virginia - don't know anything about Florida... |
I wasnt driving recklessly, I was going fast, yes, but not weaving in and out of cars, tailgating or anything else wreckless. |
In some states, "reckless" driving includes driving in excess of 20mph over the speed limit.
As for why you got pulled over and someone else didn't; it was just your unlucky day. They can't pull everyone over.
I've talked my way out of tickets before, but my record's pretty clean. I think the plice are more likely to give a warning if you don't have a bunch of tickets on your record.
I'm sure radar detectors detect radar, but I don't think they'll necessarily avoid getting busted for speeding. By the time the thing goes off, they've clocked you. Radar works at the speed of light (or very close to it) Your reaction time is way slower than that. Now if the cop pulls you over and sees your little toy sitting on the dash, he may take the time to find some other violations to add to give you some extra fun.
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06/26/2006 07:52:04 PM · #33 |
It's been a long time, but I remember a friend that had one, and everytime he drove by a grocery store, it would beep because it was picking up the automatic door opener thingys.
When I was doing a lot of interstate driving, I always tried to get in behind someone who obviously had a detector. The real advantage was being able to see it flash and have time to slow down.
I do agree with the logic that if the police or trooper sees a detector, they are quite as likely to let you off with a warning |
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06/26/2006 08:04:37 PM · #34 |
I use to speed too, until I wrecked my car for the 3rd time in a 45mph + 45mph head-on. I walked out of it with some scratches, but still.
I can also vouch for the fact that cops DO NOT like it if you have a radar detector. In my old car, I had a satellite radio reciever that sat in a cradle on top of the dashboard. I went through a sobriety check point with the reciever out and just the cradle up, and they got really pissy when they saw it and thought it was a radar detector.
Don't know why. My old car didn't go that fast, it was a '93 Buick Century.
EDIT: Sounded like I ran through the sobriety check point without stopping. Which I'm not Bad-A enough to do, yet.
Message edited by author 2006-06-26 20:06:05. |
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06/26/2006 08:06:17 PM · #35 |
I think radar detectors will work fine on radar...but a lot of police use VASCAR...where they set up two lines, watch you drive over them, push a button when you hit the first line, hit it again when you hit the second line, then the computer tells them what speed you're going...nothing's going to detect that.
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Anyway, that being said...I always drive the speed limit. I don't know where my life is going to take me. And if I lose my job for some reason, having points on my license could be the difference between getting a good new job, or severely limiting my opportunities.
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Think about it like this...If you and me leave at the same time and you average 80mph the whole way, and I average 68mph the whole way, and our destination is 200 miles away...you'd only save about 20 minutes of time, but you'd be risking your life more, burning more gas, so you'd have to stop and get gas before me which would waste time, and risking getting a ticket...not to mention those who drive faster are more likely to have road rage than those who don't.
Anyway...I always go the speed limit.
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06/26/2006 08:18:18 PM · #36 |
I've been known to bend the speed limit on occasion.
Generally I just get cops flashing their lights at me and that's all. Might have something to do with the red lights mounted on the top of my van and the Fire Department Plates and insignia though. *grin* It also helps that I know most of the cops around here. |
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06/26/2006 11:32:25 PM · #37 |
| I had an Escort and it saved me way too many times to count. Even as a member of the law enforcement community I still get "Tagged" from time to time. The Beltronics Bel RX 65 is by far the best one on the market. If you do get one make sure it has POP3 mode. This is advise from someone who knows. POP3 radar is currently "Tagging" more speeders than any other type of radar used. It's used by most state troopers and highway patrol officers in the U.S. If by chance you live in one of the two states that it is illegal then make sure it has VG-2 technology. This will detect the detectors that law enforcement use to seek out radar detection units. If the VG-2 signal goes off you simply shut the unit down. Good luck and remember the ONLY guaranteed way to beat a speeding ticket is to NOT SPEED |
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06/26/2006 11:46:00 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by jtf6agent:
I had an Escort and it saved me way too many times to count. |
Yeah, that could work but it would be really expensive wouldn't it? Even if she had a day rate the ticket is probably cheaper.
Seriously though, I had a friend who had a detector years ago (maybe 20) and it went off all the time. Nearly every time we drove by a business with automatic doors it would go off. Basically useless unless on the open highway and there they usually didn't use radar, just match your speed for a little while. Have they fixed that sort of thing? |
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06/27/2006 12:08:25 AM · #39 |
Before they were ban in Oz (heavy heavy fines to have one now), I used one but the same deal - the ^%$ thing was always flashing to the point you tended to ignore it. The slant radar & lasers made them basically useless unless they were the seriously illegal active variety (jamers I guess you call them here).
Last time in Oz (NSW) I see they have the cameras zones for the trucks [automatic picture of license plates at two points], so once that goes for normal cars, it's all over - unless you stop in the zone for a while to slow down the time which defeats the point. |
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06/27/2006 02:24:35 AM · #40 |
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Message edited by author 2006-06-27 02:25:07. |
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06/27/2006 03:06:05 AM · #41 |
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06/27/2006 05:16:18 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Personally, I think they should be illegal. |
I have to say, I don't quite understand how it can be possible for a device with a single purpose (to allow you to break the law without being caught) to be anything but illegal.
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06/27/2006 05:27:34 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by hsteg:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by hsteg:
... I wouldnt need to spend 200 dollars on a ticket and 4 hours in some course. ... |
I think you got off easy. Can't they cite you for reckless driving for anything 20mph over the speed limit? For that they can put the cuffs on and haul you off to jail. At least that's what I've heard anyway. Someone else may know the actual details for Virginia - don't know anything about Florida... |
I wasnt driving recklessly, I was going fast, yes, but not weaving in and out of cars, tailgating or anything else wreckless. |
Originally posted by hsteg:
I just got pulled over doing 58 in a 35. |
Going too fast IS reckless. If you are going faster than what is considered reasonable (generally the speed limit) you will not be able to stop or slow down safely, putting yourself and others at risk.
23MPH over the limit is a bit extreme. Personally, I'm glad you were given a citation. I wish they could slow down everyone that has such disregard for public safety. |
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06/27/2006 05:55:11 AM · #44 |
Well guys Bandit would love this thread, He's the expert in our neck of the woods, so if you are going thru Taupo and get pulled over by a guy with a cat and a Nikon D200, and a ticket book yuo'l know who your meeting !!!LOL
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06/27/2006 06:01:18 AM · #45 |
One reason you may have been singled out is that officers do not always know which person is the worse culprit so they look for signs of the guilty party.
Braking, when officers see break lights, they assume that you are the one that was going the fastest because you felt guilty enough to brake. Not always true though because alot of people brake every time they see an officer even if they don't speed.
Being too close to the car in front of you, officers assume that you are tailgaiting the person in front of you to intimidate them into moving over so you can go faster.
Speeding in the slow lane, If it looks like you are going faster than anyone in one of the faster lanes, the officer assumes that you are weaving to pass all of the other vehicles. It may look this way if someone in the faster lanes figures that there is a police car up a head and either brakes before getting to him or at least lets off the gas. Then it appears that everyone is driving faster that him.
Either way, if you speed, you know you are taking a risk and you have to pay if you get caught. You have to weigh the risk and don't forget to be glad that you didn't get hurt or killed or hurt or kill someone else. |
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06/27/2006 06:06:19 AM · #46 |
| Suck it up dude. Deep down you gotta know you were going way too fast, so pay the fine and learn from the experience. That way you won't need a radar detector and you can save your $ for something more important - like some new glass. :) |
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06/27/2006 07:01:51 AM · #47 |
| Just be glad you don't live here - currently in Australia (Vic) going 25km/h (15mph) over the limit will see you lose your licence. They will also book you for doing 1 km/h over the limit... really nasty. Radar detectors are illegal. Of course none of this has actually reduced the road toll, but the government makes an absoulute fortune on all the fines... |
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06/27/2006 07:43:05 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Leok:
Just be glad you don't live here - currently in Australia (Vic) going 25km/h (15mph) over the limit will see you lose your licence. They will also book you for doing 1 km/h over the limit... really nasty. Radar detectors are illegal. Of course none of this has actually reduced the road toll, but the government makes an absoulute fortune on all the fines... |
Ouch, a 1 kph difference will get you stopped? That's rough, since most cars tend to be a few kph/mph out of calibration to begin with!
As far as the OP goes, you did the crime, now you get to pay the fine. Doing that much over the limit, I can't feel bad for you. And I wouldn't waste the money on a detector. But then, I always am within 10% of the speed limit - it's just easier all around. Especially since dealing with redneck cops is NOT enjoyable.
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06/27/2006 08:38:26 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
Originally posted by Leok:
Just be glad you don't live here - currently in Australia (Vic) going 25km/h (15mph) over the limit will see you lose your licence. They will also book you for doing 1 km/h over the limit... really nasty. Radar detectors are illegal. Of course none of this has actually reduced the road toll, but the government makes an absoulute fortune on all the fines... |
Ouch, a 1 kph difference will get you stopped? That's rough, since most cars tend to be a few kph/mph out of calibration to begin with! |
Yeah, Victorian police play hard. They won't do that north of the border here in New South Wales - and I believe that if they did, then it would be a valid (i.e. case-winning) argument that ADR (Australian Design Rules for cars) only require a speedometer to be accurate to within +/-10% and you have no way of determining your speed to a greater accuracy. (For that matter, the difference between under-inflated and over-inflated tyres could easily be 1-2 km/h). Of course, (i) IANAL and (ii) the argument doesn't apply if you're doing 70 in a 60 zone!
The argument also doesn't apply if you're at a school zone and your clock said 3:31pm (when the normal 50 or 60 limit applies) while the cop's watch said 3:29pm (when the school zone limit of 40 applies). ADR doesn't specify how inaccurate your clock is allowed to be!
In most state of Australia, there are whopping huge fines for having a radar detector in your car, even if it wasn't switched on and you weren't speeding.
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06/27/2006 08:50:54 AM · #50 |
Like Karmat said, they're great at detecting grocery stores and malls. And cops will definitely give you all they got when they seen one in your car. Here in LA, guys have avoided speeding tickets with their detector, only to be pulled over further down the road for a lane change without a signal, which turned into unsafe lane-change and wreckless driving once the cop saw the detector. They're a slap in the face to a cop. The cops around here are also very stealthy:
Whatever you do, don't look at this site, or this one. ;-) |
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