Help me out here: Framing ?? - DPChallenge Forums

06/21/2006 01:28:37 AM · #1

How are these framing:

and this is not?

Give me a clue here, am I really just that off?

Message edited by author 2006-06-21 01:29:03.

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06/21/2006 01:31:10 AM · #2

IMO none of those really show a frame.

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Capture an image where the foreground subject frames the rest of the image.

Message edited by author 2006-06-21 01:37:08.

Bugzeye

06/21/2006 01:33:06 AM · #3

i guess the shot of the moon is the crane framing the moon or half framing anyway, either way It was one of my favorite shots in the challenge maybe not 100% tight on the frame but the concept is sweet,

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06/21/2006 01:34:38 AM · #4

Originally posted by rex:

IMO none of those really show a natural frame.

[Challenge Description]
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Capture an image where the foreground subject frames the rest of the image.

The challenge wasn't natural framing, it was framing. There's a difference I think.

This says they all do..

And it'd kinda what I went off of for my shot. What says that framing must fully wrap the subject?? Technically, the winner didn't do that either. I think they're all framing, I just don't get why you don't...

crayon

06/21/2006 01:36:13 AM · #5

the water around the rock is the frame

the crane frames the moon

slightly pushing it here, tho the leaves does cover most of the photo and creates a frame around the subject - not strong examples

same as the two examples above - not that strong, thought it would probably pass off for having one.

Just my opinion.

06/21/2006 01:36:50 AM · #6

Framing or cropping?

No it wasn't natural framing but you can read the desription.

06/21/2006 01:38:43 AM · #7

Crayon, one of those "not strong examples" won the first framing challenge, and IS a classic example of framing. That's why Zoomdak did it.

06/21/2006 01:40:11 AM · #8

Originally posted by rex:

Framing or cropping?

No it wasn't natural framing but you can read the desription.

Where in the description did it say that you had to completely surround the subject with a frame?

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06/21/2006 01:40:48 AM · #9

The crane shot got about the same amount and tone of DNMC type comments as yours and might've gotten more, but the shot had a gimmick - that usually distracts people from the challenge topic.

The Oregon coast shot probably got more DNMC type comments, but it's breathtaking, so again, people let it slide a bit.

The Colorado pic seems clearly framed to me, but still got at least one "not really framed" comment and again, the wow factor played a role here.

Your shot I think is great and it is no better or weaker on the challenge relevance than most of the others - I don't think the score had much to do with the framing.

All my opinion, of course. :)

crayon

06/21/2006 01:41:13 AM · #10

Originally posted by wavelength:

Crayon, one of those "not strong examples" won the first framing challenge, and IS a classic example of framing. That's why Zoomdak did it.

I know that. Didn't say it was a bad photo, but personally dont think it is a very strong example for "framing", that's all. On a side note - if a photo is worth a 10, but dont really fit the challenge THAT much, it becomes a 9, or maybe an 8, and it would still win the rest of the competition - fitting the challenge or not.

PhantomEWO

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06/21/2006 01:41:51 AM · #11

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

But ... does a three shot HDR meet the rules?

06/21/2006 01:42:04 AM · #12

Originally posted by wavelength:

Where in the description did it say that you had to completely surround the subject with a frame?

shrug????

I never said it had to completely surround the subject. YOu asked for an opinion and I gave you mine. None of those including your shot have a frame in my opinion.

06/21/2006 01:42:32 AM · #13

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Yeah, I figger my score is my score, that's fine, I just think some people have WAY to strict an idea of framing in their head is all.

06/21/2006 01:43:23 AM · #14

Originally posted by wavelength:

Yeah, I figger my score is my score, that's fine, I just think some people have WAY to strict an idea of framing in their head is all.

Let's talk about Bokeh... ;-)

06/21/2006 01:44:29 AM · #15

Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by wavelength:

Where in the description did it say that you had to completely surround the subject with a frame?

shrug????

I never said it had to completely surround the subject. YOu asked for an opinion and I gave you mine. None of those including your shot have a frame in my opinion.

Okay. Maybe if you study some more about it, you might change your mind though, maybe not. I'm just trying to figure people out is all.

06/21/2006 01:44:39 AM · #16

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

But ... does a three shot HDR meet the rules?

Warning! "HDR" fails to yield results from my vast database of acronyms. The only reponse I get is WTF? ;-)

Message edited by author 2006-06-21 01:44:52.

06/21/2006 01:44:54 AM · #17

Originally posted by wavelength:

I just think some people have WAY to strict an idea of framing in their head is all.

If everyone on this ball of dirt thought the same I wouldn't want to live here. People have different interpretations and I think that is the way it goes. IF you want to bitch about your score just come right out and bitch.

06/21/2006 01:45:50 AM · #18

Originally posted by wavelength:

I'm just trying to figure people out is all.

Ahhh, we all enjoy an occasional futile endeavor. :)

06/21/2006 01:46:00 AM · #19

Originally posted by wavelength:

Okay. Maybe if you study some more about it, you might change your mind though, maybe not. I'm just trying to figure people out is all.

Actually I have studied it and you are assuming I haven't. So would that be prejudice?

Message edited by author 2006-06-21 01:46:19.

06/21/2006 01:46:39 AM · #20

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by wavelength:
Crayon, one of those "not strong examples" won the first framing challenge, and IS a classic example of framing. That's why Zoomdak did it.

I know that. Didn't say it was a bad photo, but personally dont think it is a very strong example for "framing", that's all. On a side note - if a photo is worth a 10, but dont really fit the challenge THAT much, it becomes a 9, or maybe an 8, and it would still win the rest of the competition - fitting the challenge or not.

LOL, I wish!!! Most people say they take half off for completely not meeting the challenge. macrothing gave me a freaking 3!! only thing he commented on was DNMC... ???

06/21/2006 01:47:26 AM · #21

Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by wavelength:

Okay. Maybe if you study some more about it, you might change your mind though, maybe not. I'm just trying to figure people out is all.

Actually I have studied it and you are assuming I haven't. So would that be prejudice?

No.

06/21/2006 01:48:50 AM · #22

Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by wavelength:
I just think some people have WAY to strict an idea of framing in their head is all.

If everyone on this ball of dirt thought the same I wouldn't want to live here. People have different interpretations and I think that is the way it goes. IF you want to bitch about your score just come right out and bitch.

No, I'd rather start a more civil discussion, which apparently you don't want to do. Whatever.

06/21/2006 01:49:05 AM · #23

Originally posted by wavelength:

macrothing gave me a freaking 3!! only thing he commented on was DNMC... ???

And this is what keeps me from voting and commenting a lot. The fact that people call other people out in the forums when they don;t agree with what is said in a comment.

06/21/2006 01:50:24 AM · #24

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:
But ... does a three shot HDR meet the rules?

Warning! "HDR" fails to yield results from my vast database of acronyms. The only reponse I get is WTF? ;-)

High Dynamic Range in CS2 Art, nice to have, bad to use in a challenge unless you processed the shots all from one RAW file...