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06/19/2006 10:06:49 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Admin/SC:
Can you please Disqualify my latest ribbon shot:
Yes, I was in the Hospital. Yes, I did contact a DPC member and ask that
extra time be allowed as I was in the hospital and had no way to get
the original in within the 48 hour period, and was sent nearly a week later.
If the rules can be "adjusted" for me, they should be for anyone with special circumstances. |
You've had 2 DQs in 147 entries. you asked for extra time and gave a reason.
alternately, the other person had 2 entries, 1 was DQ, and when asked for proof sent in two non originals, was given extra time, and did not ask for any special circumstances.
Look at this way - you're like OJ, untouchable LOL
Also, there was a person, not long ago, that was removed from the site - they had 7 entries with fudged EXIF info. While we assume the best of everyone, there is ample evidence that some folks cheat, and do it often. Innocent until proven guilty,sure, but you still arrest them and hold them in jail until the trial.
Message edited by author 2006-06-19 10:09:10.
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06/19/2006 10:26:34 AM · #77 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Yes it does. I have a 10D body, and have used this function. |
In fact, you can't shoot RAW only on the 10D. There is always a jpeg attached. You just choose the size. |
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06/19/2006 10:27:54 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
When you shoot RAW+JPEG, the JPEG is also an original. |
Thats new for me...
And not be anal about stuff, but the RAW and JPEG usually do not have the same exif information. Not with a Nikon D70 anyway. So the jpeg will not have the same exif as the original I use.
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06/19/2006 10:54:42 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by iainmorrison111:
Originally posted by karmat:
We understand completely. There have been others in the same situations. That said, the only way we can insure fairness amongst all competitors is to require the unaltered RAW (if that is what you are shooting).
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karmet,
If I set up camera up to create one RAW and jpg at the time of shooting, does the jpg count as the unaltered original? I'm assuming the jpg contains all the EXIF data you require? |
Yes. When you shoot RAW+JPEG, the JPEG is also an original. If you are shooting specifically for a DPC challenge, setting the camera for RAW + Small JPEG can allow you to upload much smaller proof files and still reap the benefits of RAW. |
kirbic,
Can I ask for a small amendment to the rules then that clarifies your statement above? It would certainly clear up an issue that has generated so much activity!
Cheers guys!
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06/19/2006 11:00:19 AM · #80 |
Really? How can I find those already hidden jpgs?
I chose RAW in the quality section of my 10D. I can't see this RAW + low jpg choice in my 10D to pre-set the thing.
I can see that 2 files are created CRW_0005.CRW then another one CRW_0005.THM when I click in my PhotoShop CS on to the THM file, it says it can't be opened. However when I click on the CRW, it openes it up as a Raw file. I can choose 8 bits or 16 bits.
I truly would like to know how. Thanks.
Cheers,
Hera
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by kirbic:
Yes it does. I have a 10D body, and have used this function. |
In fact, you can't shoot RAW only on the 10D. There is always a jpeg attached. You just choose the size. |
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06/19/2006 11:24:24 AM · #81 |
Originally posted by Photopromo:
Really? How can I find those already hidden jpgs?
I chose RAW in the quality section of my 10D. I can't see this RAW + low jpg choice in my 10D to pre-set the thing.
I can see that 2 files are created CRW_0005.CRW then another one CRW_0005.THM when I click in my PhotoShop CS on to the THM file, it says it can't be opened. However when I click on the CRW, it openes it up as a Raw file. I can choose 8 bits or 16 bits.
I truly would like to know how. Thanks.
Cheers,
Hera
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The small file you are seeing above is a tiny jpg created by the camera so it can display your image on the LCD screen.
To set your RAW + jpg parameters, use Custom Function 08 in your menu; you can choose a variety of jpg sizes from small to large there for the image that goes along with your RAW image.
R.
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06/19/2006 11:26:08 AM · #82 |
[quote=Photopromo] Really? How can I find those already hidden jpgs?
I chose RAW in the quality section of my 10D. I can't see this RAW + low jpg choice in my 10D to pre-set the thing.
I can see that 2 files are created CRW_0005.CRW then another one CRW_0005.THM when I click in my PhotoShop CS on to the THM file, it says it can't be opened. However when I click on the CRW, it openes it up as a Raw file. I can choose 8 bits or 16 bits.
I truly would like to know how. Thanks.
Cheers,
Hera
When you select the image type from the menu on the camera, there should be options for JPEG, RAW, and several RAW+JPEG options. You can select the RAW+JPEG option that writes a small JPEG file. I don't have the body immediately at hand so I can't give you the specifics of the choices. It's been 9 months since I shot regularly with that body.
The one thing to be aware of with this is that the JPEG file is written with whatever settings for color space, saturation, sharpening, etcetera is currently set in the camera. |
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06/19/2006 11:39:54 AM · #83 |
When I open the file through Canon's image viewer, I can see that I can save it as a exif jpg.
I rarely use Canon's program to edit my shots. But I guess it can be used to proove a point.
I still will send the RAW file to the SC and show that the image was shot May 24. between 11am and noon.
Cheers,
Hera |
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06/19/2006 11:47:20 AM · #84 |
Thanks Robert, as I see it was now set to RAW+ large... I set it up to Raw+low.
Cheers,
Hera
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Photopromo:
Really? How can I find those already hidden jpgs?
I chose RAW in the quality section of my 10D. I can't see this RAW + low jpg choice in my 10D to pre-set the thing.
I can see that 2 files are created CRW_0005.CRW then another one CRW_0005.THM when I click in my PhotoShop CS on to the THM file, it says it can't be opened. However when I click on the CRW, it openes it up as a Raw file. I can choose 8 bits or 16 bits.
I truly would like to know how. Thanks.
Cheers,
Hera
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The small file you are seeing above is a tiny jpg created by the camera so it can display your image on the LCD screen.
To set your RAW + jpg parameters, use Custom Function 08 in your menu; you can choose a variety of jpg sizes from small to large there for the image that goes along with your RAW image.
R. |
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06/19/2006 04:55:11 PM · #85 |
Dear Ursula & Shannon from the SC, and other members,
Thanks for all your help on technical issues.
As the consul requested the RAW file has been sent to the consul at this very moment. I simply want to clarify all the commotion.
Did this happen before? Did a new member̢۪s ribbon got DQ'ed? I hope that I will be the first.
I was totally confused before leaving to my New York tip regarding to upload the original shot. Once there, I could not even and send the file. Then I wondered why a site needs a high res image?
I hope that the Raw image I shot May 24th between 11am and noon will clear the matters for once and stop several assumptions and discussions at the forum about my shot, who I might be, and how much I had access to the internet during my New York trip.
I did not have much internet access throughout the trip. Only on few occasions for a short periods of time. The adminstration can check up all on those issues regarding my log ons during my New York trip. They can verify this from the IP address.
Regards,
Hera
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06/19/2006 05:21:59 PM · #86 |
| You check a box when you enter that says you've read the rules. Also when you sign up. I know that they are confusing, they were for me also. However, they are the rules. |
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06/19/2006 05:24:53 PM · #87 |
Hera (photopromo) provided us with proof today for her disqualified third place image, "The Great Expectation".
There is nothing illegal with this image, there was simply a misunderstanding as to what is an original.
I'd like everyone to know that Hera did not cheat in any way. She is very concerned about people thinking poorly of her. Nobody should think bad of her.
I'm sorry that this happened, but things like it happen sometimes. I'm very glad that it's been cleared. I personally hope that Hera continues to participate here, maybe even enters some more challenges. I'm quite sure she'd able to ribbon easily.
EDIT: Added link.
Message edited by author 2006-06-19 17:32:13. |
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06/19/2006 05:27:09 PM · #88 |
Hera, I think you should edit your photographers' comments on that image.
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06/19/2006 05:28:44 PM · #89 |
Well Hera, I'm glad for your sake that you were able to clear this up. I know that I, and I'm sure most other people, didn't think you were intentionally cheating. These things just happen. I hope now that you're gaining a better understanding of the rules, you'll consider entering again. If you ever have questions, you can always ask in the forums or use the contact page under the help menu to contact the Site Council.
There have been at least a handful of other ribbon entries by newcomers that have been disqualified. I think lots of people are excited to enter but not so excited to read the rules.
Message edited by author 2006-06-19 17:30:20. |
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06/19/2006 06:28:05 PM · #90 |
- Rules are good. Follow the rules.
- You can pre-submit a photo if you like and have it validated beforehand.
- SC is good. Follow the SC.
- Lock this thread and move on people. ;-) |
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06/19/2006 06:36:10 PM · #91 |
I'd love to be able to submit proof even as I submit for a challenge. Would that be hard to implement?
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06/19/2006 06:45:43 PM · #92 |
I posted this in the other thread but I have to post it here, sorry I am nopt spaming.
Bottom line that sucks. As long as you have the raw image, it should be allowed. If this was a job I could understand the absolute dead line rule, this is for fun.
Why strip deserved credit due to bureaucracy? |
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06/19/2006 06:49:30 PM · #93 |
Originally posted by terje:
I'd love to be able to submit proof even as I submit for a challenge. Would that be hard to implement? |
I don't think it would be hard to implement... but the storage and bandwidth requirements might get pretty stiff if lots of folks startie regularly using it. It is a really good idea, if workable though, and would speed up validation significantly in cases where the original is already present.
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06/19/2006 06:52:45 PM · #94 |
Originally posted by Fibre Optix:
I posted this in the other thread but I have to post it here, sorry I am nopt spaming.
Bottom line that sucks. As long as you have the raw image, it should be allowed. If this was a job I could understand the absolute dead line rule, this is for fun.
Why strip deserved credit due to bureaucracy? |
It does suck, no one disagrees. But the bottom line is that we *must* treat everyone the same out of fairness. I think Hera understands that.
Yes, it's really just fun, but a big part of the DPC experience is that we strive so hard to level the playing field... this is what sets DPC apart from a bunch of other contest sites. Well, that and the community, which is second to none. |
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06/20/2006 10:56:13 AM · #95 |
| I haven't paid for a membership YET but I still read the rules. |
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06/20/2006 11:14:19 AM · #96 |
Originally posted by ignite:
- You can pre-submit a photo if you like and have it validated beforehand. |
Not exactly -- you can pre-submit an original with a ticket, but the entry can't be validated until after the voting starts. |
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06/20/2006 11:16:29 AM · #97 |
Can't we get this thread closed? It no longer seems to be serving its original purpose as that situation has been handled and put to bed.
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