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06/15/2006 05:45:38 PM · #1
I have applied for a position, and was asked what brand equipment I shot with. I told them and they asked if needed would I switch to Canon which is the brand they use and I would have access to lens. SO I thought about what I could get for my equipment. And then looked to see what I could get with the money and maybe a touch more if needed. SO if you had say 2600 to spend. Would this be what you bought. Canon 30d body, Tokina 28-702.8 ATX PRO SV, Canon 50mm F1.8 II, Sigma 70-200 F2.8 EX DG APO HSM, and the Canon 580 EX speedlight. This is what I think currently I would buy. I'm sure I might need something wider then 28 but I'm not sure. Any advise would be appreciated.

MattO

Edit to add, I would be doing some SPorts, news, a little wildlife, and some portrait/advertising work. As well as general photography



Message edited by author 2006-06-15 17:51:37.
06/15/2006 05:49:08 PM · #2
what kinds of things are you shooting?

drake
06/15/2006 06:05:42 PM · #3
I don't think you can get all that for $2,600 can you?

Here is my thought:

30D (Dell had them for $1100+)
50 mm II f/1.8
Try to get a used Canon 550 EX off ebay. It'll cost you less and then you can use it for a slave when you get more money for the 580 EX.

Tamron has a 200-500mm that can be had for $700-$800. Might be worth considering. I've read a lot of reviews, it's not an L but it's extremely lightweight. And a few reviewers comment that due to it's lightness it's become their nature walk lens. Having that 500mm for sports and wild life would be a major benefit. I don't think the 70-200mm will cut it for you.

28mm-70mm isn't very wide. You might want to consider a ultra wide (Canon 10mm-22mm or Tokina 12mm-24mm)

And then let the 50mm fill in the middle ground.

06/15/2006 06:09:38 PM · #4
Originally posted by theSaj:

I don't think you can get all that for $2,600 can you?

Here is my thought:

30D (Dell had them for $1100+)
50 mm II f/1.8
Try to get a used Canon 550 EX off ebay. It'll cost you less and then you can use it for a slave when you get more money for the 580 EX.

Tamron has a 200-500mm that can be had for $700-$800. Might be worth considering. I've read a lot of reviews, it's not an L but it's extremely lightweight. And a few reviewers comment that due to it's lightness it's become their nature walk lens. Having that 500mm for sports and wild life would be a major benefit. I don't think the 70-200mm will cut it for you.

28mm-70mm isn't very wide. You might want to consider a ultra wide (Canon 10mm-22mm or Tokina 12mm-24mm)

And then let the 50mm fill in the middle ground.


The total I came up with direct from B&H was 2928.70 with shipping and handling. I agree I may want to drop the 28-70 go wide like you suggested and then let the 50mm fill in the middle. I'll keep that in mind. The 2600 I came up with is what I figure I can get for all of my equipment if I were to sell it. I'd have to add a touch to the total to get what I want. Thanks for the suggestions.

MattO

Edit to add, I just checked on the Tokina you suggested. And while it looks nice, that would put the outfit out of my bidget range. I could add the kit lens cheaply enough to help fill in the wide until I got enough to upgrade though. I fi removed the 28-70 and added the 18-55 I'd be down in the 2698.85 range with shipping.

Message edited by author 2006-06-15 18:25:33.
06/15/2006 10:49:41 PM · #5
Bump for the night crowd. Where is the Canon love? :-)

MattO
06/16/2006 02:13:59 PM · #6
10-22 or 12-24
17-50
50 1.8
70-200 or 70-300
06/16/2006 10:19:22 PM · #7
Originally posted by k4rp:

10-22 or 12-24
17-50
50 1.8
70-200 or 70-300


Thanks for the info, but do you have any specific brands of these? I dont ever recall seeing a 17-50 on my searches. The 70-200 would be better as it appears affordable compared to a high grade 70-300. I like the idea of a 2.8 all the way out telephoto.

MattO
06/16/2006 10:56:11 PM · #8
all you need:

decent body (20d or 30d)

17-55 f/2.8 (or 17-40 2.8)

and

70-200 2.8

--

and you're set...obviously a 1.4x would come in handy if you're shooting wildlife which would get you close to the bare minimum 300mm.

Good luck, let us know what happens.


06/16/2006 11:57:46 PM · #9
Originally posted by deapee:

all you need:

decent body (20d or 30d)

17-55 f/2.8 (or 17-40 2.8)

and

70-200 2.8

--

and you're set...obviously a 1.4x would come in handy if you're shooting wildlife which would get you close to the bare minimum 300mm.

Good luck, let us know what happens.


Holy cow those are some expensive wide angle zooms there. I certainly think those would have to wait. They look nice and would cover what I need, but funds just arent here for $4k right off the bat.

MattO
06/17/2006 12:38:26 AM · #10
If you want to go wide for a lot less than the Canon 17-40mm 4L (edited) check out the Tammy SP 17-35mm 2.8-4 Tack sharp great reviews, I tried both side by side and could not justify the ton extra that the Canon was.

My first lenes were the SP 17-35mm, 50mm 1.8 and the 70-200mm 4L, I did not miss the gap between 35 to 50 and 50 to 70, but the reach got to be a problem first off. I added a x1.4 which give ~280mm and still find that a bit short.

I tried my Mom's Tammy 200-500mm when she came down over mother's day, and fell in love with that lens. Could still hand hold and shoot birds and that thing gets out there.

Message edited by author 2006-06-17 18:55:19.
06/17/2006 04:49:13 PM · #11
Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by k4rp:

10-22 or 12-24
17-50
50 1.8
70-200 or 70-300


Thanks for the info, but do you have any specific brands of these? I dont ever recall seeing a 17-50 on my searches. The 70-200 would be better as it appears affordable compared to a high grade 70-300. I like the idea of a 2.8 all the way out telephoto.

MattO

sigma for the telelens

sigma or tamron have a 17-50 and a 18-50 if i'm not mistaking
tokina will have a 16-50 somewhere this fall
they're all 2.8 lenses

canon for the 10-22, or tokina for the 12-24
the second would save you quite some money

as you might guess, i prefer fast lenses ;)

Message edited by author 2006-06-17 16:51:06.
06/17/2006 05:27:18 PM · #12
New:
Tamron 17-50 2.8
sigma 70-200 2.8
tamron 1.4x TC (the regular one)
30D, body only
spare battery for 30D (sterlingtek)
op/tech pro strap
flash...sigma EF500DG is very functional and throw on an omnibounce.

For some wildlife you'll want longer. I have heard good things about the tamron 200-500.

BTW - the canon 17-40 is an F4 lens, not 2.8.
not sure you'll need wider than 18 - if you do the tokina 12-24 f4 is very nice.
06/17/2006 05:29:44 PM · #13
Originally posted by deapee:

all you need:

decent body (20d or 30d)

17-55 f/2.8 (or 17-40 2.8)

and

70-200 2.8


the 17-40 is an f4 lens.
the 17-55 is $1200....not in the budget with the other needed items.

Ewven a used 20D would work, but i'd get a 30D and check out used lenses and flash if trying to save some money. All my flash items (except 2 studio units) have been bought used and no probs at all. Just got a sigma EF500DG super w/ omnibounce for $170 shipped.
06/17/2006 05:42:58 PM · #14
I don't get it - If they want you to shoot with a Canon body so you can use their lenses, why are you looking for a full set of EOS lenses? If you also have to buy all the lenses then what does it matter what body you use?
06/17/2006 05:44:32 PM · #15
Originally posted by robs:

I don't get it - If they want you to shoot with a Canon body so you can use their lenses, why are you looking for a full set of EOS lenses? If you also have to buy all the lenses then what does it matter what body you use?


if he sells his stuff to get a canon body he'll want lenses for his days off, right?

could be the company wants canon RAW files or needs the pics to be canon so they match in color or resolution or some such for PP work and to have them all look the same.
06/17/2006 07:09:48 PM · #16
Canon makes good stuff, go for it.
I handled Nasti's 5D (with battery grip) last week and man did that camera feel good in the hand with a great VF (altough I like the D200 one too).

06/17/2006 09:07:32 PM · #17
OK guys and gals, this is what I have in my cart as of right now if I hit the send button to order.

Canon
EOS 30D, 8.2 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera (Camera Body)
Sigma
EF-500 DG Super E-TTL II Shoe Mount Flash
Tamron
Zoom Super Wide Angle SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II LD Aspherical [IF]
Sigma USA
Zoom Telephoto 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM Autofocus Lens for Canon

that with shipping has me to almost $2900 and I think thats my limit for now. I may add the 50mm f1.8 later but for now thats what I think I'd go with. I think the Olympus stuff may very well be going up for sale. Does this look I could be covered for a bit, until I get a chance to put more $$$ in the bank?

MattO
06/17/2006 09:53:10 PM · #18
Well chosen Matt. Hit the button.
06/17/2006 09:56:19 PM · #19
B&H is good but there are other good honest companies that beat their prices on a regular basis. Check all options and you might get the equivalent of the 50mm free.
06/17/2006 09:59:02 PM · #20
Originally posted by coolhar:

Well chosen Matt. Hit the button.


Thanks I just relooked and I may make an adjustment to this tell me what you think.
Canon
EOS 30D, 8.2 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera with Canon EF-S 18-55mm
Sigma
EF-500 DG Super E-TTL II Shoe Mount Flash
Tamron Used Dept.
Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF)
Sigma USA
Zoom Telephoto 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM Autofocus Lens for Canon

with this and shipping I am down to 2786.95, or should I stick to my original thinking?

MattO

Edit for typo

Message edited by author 2006-06-17 22:10:11.
06/17/2006 10:02:23 PM · #21
I had that Tammy 28-75, it's every bit as good as it's internet reputation. You won't be disappointed in it.
06/17/2006 10:10:56 PM · #22
The Tamron AF 28-75 is an excellent lens. Hit the order button.
06/17/2006 10:13:07 PM · #23
Originally posted by cfischl:

The Tamron AF 28-75 is an excellent lens. Hit the order button.


I cant they arent accepting orders right now!!!!!!GRRR

MattO :-)
06/18/2006 12:11:55 AM · #24
keep the 18-50 2.8 and forget the 28-70.

there is a HUGE difference between 18 and 28. Indoors particularly. I had a 28-80 and moved to a 18-50 and the diff is very very noticeable. My choice for a one lens walkaround is the tamron 24-135 - and when i put on the 18-50 I can really appreciate the extra 6mm.

teh tamron 18-50 2.8 is supposed to be the better choice over the 28-70 on a 1.6 crop camera.

There are other sources out there. Dell is often cheaper on the body - BUT they charge sales tax and don't always ship fast, and customer service, well, they don't know what it is. b&h is reliable and trustworthy. I know why they don't do biz on saturday, but why their internet site can't just pile up the orders in the que till monday makes no sense. If the site is up, then i see no reason not to take orders.
06/18/2006 03:53:28 AM · #25
Pick the 18-50 over the 28-75, you won't regret it.
28mm on a crop camera isn't much of a wide angle really.
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