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06/14/2006 08:45:13 AM · #1

I scored lower then a row of cars under a carport. I mean really. For all the people that commented how it wasn't unexpected, it actually was but I saw plenty in there that I didn't think of as unexpected but very well could have been.
For the out of focus comments, I actually softened it to make it look old. Only one person got it- thanks Judi. Once again the true test of my work is not here hehe so I won't whine for long.

Here are some outakes from that day that I could not enter because of cloning. I would have entered any of them instead but had to do some pretty heavy cloning and didn't want a dq.

all were taken right as a storm was coming in with my 45-150mm lens.

Apple iPhone 5

06/14/2006 08:47:58 AM · #2

I still don't get it though - what was unexpected?

glad2badad

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II

Olympus 60mm f/2.8 Macro M.Zuiko Digital ED

06/14/2006 08:48:10 AM · #3

Very nice! I especially like the first two in your post. I hope you sell a bunch of them. ;^)

OdysseyF22

Panasonic DC-G9

Olympus 12-45mm f/4.0 Pro

06/14/2006 08:50:38 AM · #4

Originally posted by jhonan:

I still don't get it though - what was unexpected?

I'm guessing it was the old ships themselves, not such a common sight any more, especially more than one of them.

missinseattle, I think these are some great shots. I'm a fan of the subjects, but aside from that, I also think they are well executed. I'm not sure how much I like the "softened-old" effect, but it is an interesting way to present the material.

Sorry they didn't do better!

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0 L USM

06/14/2006 09:01:34 AM · #5

I agree about the boats. The photographer went out there to photograph her daughter and found the boats out there.....an unexpected find. I know that was a problem with a lot of the images....there was even discussion on them in the forums. People photographed things that were unexpected to them...but without being able to explain it to the viewer others didn't see the subjects as out of the norm.

That is part of the territory that comes with these challenges. I know that this site is not filled with the worlds greatest photographers. This site, like other sites, have photographers of all levels and desires. Desires to better themselves in their craft. I can't go into a challenge and expect Mona Lisa's of the photography world...you will come across the occasional image that might look like it needs help but to the photographer it is 'THEIR' masterpiece. Treat it as such...I don't mean coat it with sugar...but if you are going to state the obvious...then explain how the photographer can improve. If you can't....then don't say anything as it is not going to help the photographer.

I should have explained more in my comment...but what I saw was a nice photo...plain and simple. I could've said out of focus...but why? I knew that the image would be getting plenty of those...and coming from someone who gets P***** off with similiar comments but on a different subject...I didn't want to subject the photographer into that. So instead I tried to give them a smile...that someone does like their image...does understand the effort they put into that image. It meant something to them.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

06/14/2006 09:04:13 AM · #6

Originally posted by jhonan:

I still don't get it though - what was unexpected?

it's unexpected because it's a replica from the late 1900's and normally only sails on weekends this time of year. I caught it on a weekday and was actually planning on taking pictures of my daughter around the area, not a ship.
Not only that I'd never seen it before with the sails up so that was unexpected too.

and thanks all. I actually liked it- not as much as some of the others I got that day. I've sold a few of the others and a friend back home sold 2 of the ones with the 2 ships on it back home. I actually let her order one for her stepdad for fathers day, she let him pick, and in the process he bought the other 2. Showed a friend of his who also bought one lol.
Taking them over to Yorktown once I get prints ordered to add to the rest of my Yorktown portfolio. We'll see how it goes.

The one entered definetly wasn't my favorite but the best I could get in with the editing allowed.

Message edited by author 2006-06-14 09:05:30.

Apple iPhone 5

06/14/2006 09:23:21 AM · #7

Originally posted by missinseattle:

Originally posted by jhonan:
I still don't get it though - what was unexpected?

it's unexpected because it's a replica from the late 1900's and normally only sails on weekends this time of year. I caught it on a weekday and was actually planning on taking pictures of my daughter around the area, not a ship.
Not only that I'd never seen it before with the sails up so that was unexpected too.

Ah, okay - thanks for explaining. It was unexpected to *you* :) I was looking at the shot trying to see what was unexpected about it.

Anyway, some lovely shots there, pity there wasn't a 'ship' challenge running at the time!

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

06/14/2006 09:26:51 AM · #8

Well I saw many that weren't "unexpected" to me. Most of them in fact. Like what's so unexpected about a dragonfly? They're all over the place here so to ME that wouldn't be unexpected. Maybe I should have made my title "The Unexpected Sailing of the Alliance" and it would have scored higher. But I think it's really cheap to tie the challenge into the title.

Apple iPhone 5

06/14/2006 09:31:09 AM · #9

Originally posted by missinseattle:

Well I saw many that weren't "unexpected" to me. Most of them in fact. Like what's so unexpected about a dragonfly? They're all over the place here so to ME that wouldn't be unexpected

I just came back from holiday where there were sailing boats and replica boats all over the place... The funny thing is that I very rarely see dragonflies. So for me, boats are expected, dragonflies are unexpected... :)

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

06/14/2006 09:31:18 AM · #10

Originally posted by missinseattle:

Well I saw many that weren't "unexpected" to me. Most of them in fact. Like what's so unexpected about a dragonfly?

Exactly. That's why I scored this challenge so low.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0 L IS

06/14/2006 11:52:33 AM · #11

and I meant the dragonfly comment as that I myself didn't see it as unexpected. Like you said jhonan, what's unexepected to me was not for someone else obviously.

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

06/14/2006 12:00:53 PM · #12

Originally posted by missinseattle:

I scored lower then a row of cars under a carport. I mean really. For all the people that commented how it wasn't unexpected...

Don't despair. You have to expect things like that from a challenge with a name like "unexpected find". There are always going to be those folks that believe that if they don't think it is an unexpected find to them then it can't possibly be an unexpected find to you and therefore are "forced" to give you a score no higher than 5 regardless of the quality of the photograph.

You might want to keep that in mind yourself next time you evaluate an image for meeting the challenge.

Message edited by author 2006-06-14 13:14:53.

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06/14/2006 12:41:23 PM · #13

you are right davidson. See when I vote I take into account the challenge, then the photo itself and how it was executed. And then I try to look at it through the photographers eyes and go from there. Always trying to put myself in someone elses shoes.

MattO

Nikon D4

06/14/2006 01:12:08 PM · #14

Originally posted by missinseattle:

Always trying to put myself in someone elses shoes.

I quit doing that, seems people hate 2 sets of feet in a shoe more then just stepping on their toes. :-)

MattO

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0 L IS

06/14/2006 01:19:12 PM · #15

Originally posted by missinseattle:

That is a good way to be. I commend you. Lots of folks here have trouble putting themselves in the photographer's shoes.

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Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/14/2006 01:26:58 PM · #16

Isn't the idea to convince the voters of your topic and not just convince yourself?