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06/10/2006 05:22:15 PM · #1 |
How are you guys doing, i'm hoping a more experienced sport photography can help someone who's just starting out. I want to get some practice with sports, but I don't know how i should go about this. Like i'm assuming I just don't come to a field unannouced pull out my camera and start shooting (especially because the fields around me are generally all kids playing sports) i mean kids could be good for practice, they're slower and easier to focus. Should I ask the coaches or parents for permission to shoot, or how could I do this? I want to practice but don't want to piss anyone off. I would appreciate any insight from a more experienced photographer.
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06/11/2006 01:32:08 AM · #2 |
I'm interested in what others have to say as well.
I've only recently started shooting sports (which seems to be what I enjoy most, so far) and got a couple pictures in the local paper before moving out to Spain. In those cases, I was going to the games anyway and still knew a bunch of people involved with the team and the school.
I know a lot of people get very paranoid about random people snapping photos of their kids these days, but if you're just looking for practice, your profile says you're still in school, so you could try taking pictures of practices or intramurals (which are probably quite slow, from my personal experience, so you have more time working on finding out what shots you like, composing, and exposure--although realize that higher levels will be much different in terms of time you have to compose and probably the shots you'll want to take). Highschool teams are also probably no too bad as they frequently have some paper coverage. Also if there are tournaments, or big events, people probably won't notice roaming photographers as much.
If you know anybody on the team, especially the coaching staff, it will probably make you feel more comfortable the first few times. They also will probably be quite happy to see what you produce. The first game I shot (which didn't come out too well because my longest lens was the 17-85 kit lens, which was way too short and would have been helped with a faster speed) was actually between my old highschool and a team coached by an old teammate, so I knew people involved with both organizations. It was quite fun showing the photos of my old teammate arguing with the refs and reacting to his team lose :)
As an aside, people on here, at least the more vocal ones, tend to espouse the idea of never giving anyone anything for free. The pictures I took (the good ones at least) I sent to a couple people on my team that I knew, at no charge (despite offers to purchase some of them, that had previously been in the paper). There were several reasons for my choosing to do so, which you might want to consider: 1) I knew these people, and in the case of the keeper, I had grown up playing with him and to some extent teaching him, and really seeing some of these kids do so well and be happy was more valuable to me than whatever I would have charged, and 2) when I was playing in highschool, there were a couple photos my parents tried to acquire that were in the paper--some really nice ones of me in net--and we never could get our hands on the originals. Some people might want to be frivolous and vindictive, or be concerned that this would lead to decreased value of their future services, but my view was that those pictures weren't ever going to be seen again anyway, and I had treated the weekend as a learning experience anyway.
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06/11/2006 03:15:53 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by tancredi:
... kids could be good for practice, they're slower and easier to focus. ... |
You obviously don't know the same kids I know... :D
Originally posted by tancredi:
... Should I ask the coaches or parents for permission to shoot, or how could I do this? I want to practice but don't want to piss anyone off. I would appreciate any insight from a more experienced photographer.
thanks
damien |
If you feel the need for permission (and it's probably a good idea), contact the organizer of the event. It would be best to start with the option that requires the least permission to be given. One organizer is just one permission to get, two teams doubles the trouble and I won't even mention the logistic nightmare of trying to shoot a team sport while trying to keep one kid out of the frame because that parent refused to give permission.
Looked at from another perspective, the players will have most likely had to sign agreements with the team or organizers and the teams (if independantly organized) will likely have an agreement with the organizers. The organizers are likely the only ones that can give you permission -- if permission is needed at all.
I don't know for certain, and it probably varies from place to place -- but the kids games around here do not charge admission. In other words, they are open to the public and no agreement is made with the spectators as to what they can and can not do.
I suppose that still leaves the owners of the field or court it is being played on -- around here it is the Parks and Recreation department of the city.
David
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06/11/2006 09:53:18 AM · #4 |
The guy I work with on sports photography has pre-arranged everything with the league directors. He (we) are the official photographers for the league.
In spite of this, we have had, on occasion, a coach who will ask if we have the parent's permission to shoot their kids. And although we've never had a parent tell us no, the coach has said no. And so we leave it at that ... and go shoot another game.
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