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 06/05/2006 11:29:39 AM · #201
Originally posted by kenskid:
The challenge is too precise to fool around...go ahead...enter a shot of a room with a chair, a radio and a shoe in it...see what happens...!

Originally posted by notonline:
Originally posted by kenskid:
This one SHOULD be easy to NOT get a DNMC. Instructions are clear. Take ONE thing with you into an EMPTY room....

I will start at a 4 any shot that has anything other than "the subject". I will accept anything anchored to the room such as:

Light FIXTURES..(not lamps), electrical outlets, celing fans, blinds, curtians.

The room should look like the house is vacant and being sold. Should not have furniture, lamps, paintings, frames, nick-nacks or any other things people usually keep in rooms.


thats right close your mind.


People that stick to the challenge description are closed minded???

That is what makes the challenge difficult. I posted this in a another forum on the same subject; we have all seen good photos that do not meet the challenge score high anyway. The example that comes to mind is in Environmental Portrait. A really nice soccer action shot scored a 6.1 Most of us would be very pleased with a 6.1 average. This was a good shot but was not an environmental portrait by any stretch of the imagination and yet it scored a 6.1. People get slammed for DNMC, unless it's a really go photo anyway, then it seems to be OK. Granted this does not happen all the time, but it does happen. The winner in 2-Second Exposure won with a shot taken with .5 second exposure, no DQ. To me this diminishes the creditability of the "Challenge" aspect of this site.

What is the point of having challenge rules if you do not have to abide by them?

I find it interesting that "Thinking outside the box" is equal to not following instructions in some people̢۪s mind. Again, the hard part is being creative with limited resources. If "single thing" wasn't important then they should not have included it in the rules.

rant over.

06/05/2006 11:31:56 AM · #202
Just glanced therw and WOW some really good pictures!! good luck to all i have not finished voting yet but wowo looks good!! =)
 06/05/2006 11:39:27 AM · #203
Not entered, but I was very pleased with the sumbmitted entries. I wonder if it will score high or low, because many people don't like or appreciate minimalism.

Also, is an object a person? I guess so cause there are tons of people. I didn't really count down for that, but maybe I should have. What is the consensus on a person or other living creature DNMC?
 06/05/2006 11:43:40 AM · #204
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Not entered, but I was very pleased with the sumbmitted entries. I wonder if it will score high or low, because many people don't like or appreciate minimalism.

Also, is an object a person? I guess so cause there are tons of people. I didn't really count down for that, but maybe I should have. What is the consensus on a person or other living creature DNMC?


A person is a thing, IMO. But some could take issue with that. A person with wearing a hat is 2 things, also IMO.

BTW - Thanks for you comment on my entry! You got exactly what I was trying to get across. From the score so far, not may people did. ;-)
 06/05/2006 07:38:12 PM · #205
Originally posted by scarbrd:
A person is a thing, IMO.


I agree.... and I just got slammed for it! Neener

Oh well... I'm happy with the shot.
06/05/2006 07:49:22 PM · #206
at least you got slammed... they knocked out my teeth already :P
 06/05/2006 07:52:01 PM · #207
Well, at least coolhar is enjoying things.
 06/05/2006 08:39:09 PM · #208
IMO, a person is not a "thing". That's my interpretation and that's how I voted. Not that I gave terrible scores to good images with people in them, but not as good as they could have gotten.

Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the entries in this challenge. But maybe that's to be expected after seeing so many outstanding images in Arch III.
 06/05/2006 08:51:50 PM · #209
Originally posted by Gatorguy:
IMO, a person is not a "thing". That's my interpretation and that's how I voted. Not that I gave terrible scores to good images with people in them, but not as good as they could have gotten.

Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the entries in this challenge. But maybe that's to be expected after seeing so many outstanding images in Arch III.


This is the problem with interpretations like this. All it does is stunt interest in entering future challenges if you get nitpicked like this. If we want to get really technical then 100% of the entries in this challenge are DNMC because not one of them has an empty room in the shot. You want an empty room that room better exist as a vacuum.

Message edited by author 2006-06-05 20:53:34.
 06/05/2006 08:55:42 PM · #210
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Gatorguy:
IMO, a person is not a "thing". That's my interpretation and that's how I voted. Not that I gave terrible scores to good images with people in them, but not as good as they could have gotten.

Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the entries in this challenge. But maybe that's to be expected after seeing so many outstanding images in Arch III.


This is the problem with interpretations like this. All it does is stunt interest in entering future challenges if you get nitpicked like this. If we want to get really technical then 100% of the entries in this challenge are DNMC because not one of them has an empty room in the shot. You want an empty room that room better exist as a vacuum.


amen brother!
 06/05/2006 08:56:36 PM · #211
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Gatorguy:
IMO, a person is not a "thing". That's my interpretation and that's how I voted. Not that I gave terrible scores to good images with people in them, but not as good as they could have gotten.

Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the entries in this challenge. But maybe that's to be expected after seeing so many outstanding images in Arch III.


This is the problem with interpretations like this. All it does is stunt interest in entering future challenges if you get nitpicked like this. If we want to get really technical then 100% of the entries in this challenge are DNMC because not one of them has an empty room in the shot. You want an empty room that room better exist as a vacuum.


Maybe I should have shot an image of inside my head. According to the voters that's what they must have been thinking I should do.
 06/05/2006 08:59:58 PM · #212
Originally posted by yanko:

This is the problem with interpretations like this. All it does is stunt interest in entering future challenges if you get nitpicked like this. If we want to get really technical then 100% of the entries in this challenge are DNMC because not one of them has an empty room in the shot. You want an empty room that room better exist as a vacuum.


Yes well, I'm terribly sorry that all interpretations of a challenge do not meet with your personal standards.

There are those who are so loose with interpreting challenge requirements that everything would be a free study. There are other places for that. I interpret the rules in my way, and vote with my scale, and I am consistant in doing so. You are free to do the same.

Message edited by author 2006-06-05 21:04:47.
 06/05/2006 09:22:47 PM · #213
I suppose there are few things less appealing than a completely empty room. Even more difficult to 'creatively photograph' a completely empty room. IMO a little slack is in order!
 06/05/2006 09:55:40 PM · #214
I actually find completely empty rooms to be mysterious & evocative. Always have. And so it goes...

R.
 06/05/2006 10:19:56 PM · #215
what's with 'left behind'?
there's like 8 titles like that so far...
06/05/2006 10:27:54 PM · #216
Originally posted by yanko:
This is the problem with interpretations like this. All it does is stunt interest in entering future challenges if you get nitpicked like this. If we want to get really technical then 100% of the entries in this challenge are DNMC because not one of them has an empty room in the shot. You want an empty room that room better exist as a vacuum.


But every challenge gets nitpicked like this.
Every single one of them
Before every challenge there is a thread involving the meaning of the words.
There are dictionary references, different meanings from different parts of the worlds.
Some people are loose in their interpretations and some are literal.
People complain that it hasn't rained 'round their part of the country when the challenge is water.
Etc etc.

Moan moan bitch bitch.

And then people start complaining about their score.
I think we've all been around here long enough to know that the voters won't like every single one of our images that we submit.
So why are we surprised when it happens?
Unless of course this is your first challenge.
And of course it hurts.
But try not to complain so much about this stuff.
It̢۪s not worth it.

Unlike me who has just sat here for five minutes and bitched and moaned about people bitching and moaning :-)

But it is my birthday today!!!!!

06/05/2006 10:28:31 PM · #217
Originally posted by Rikki:
Originally posted by yanko:
If we want to get really technical then 100% of the entries in this challenge are DNMC because not one of them has an empty room in the shot. You want an empty room that room better exist as a vacuum.


amen brother!


My room wasn't vacuumed prior to the shot. Thank goodness for the clone tool. :-) And I used a special pre-approved filter which sucked all the air out of the room in post-processing....
 06/05/2006 10:29:43 PM · #218
Happy Birthday, UNCLEBRO. And I'm the one who complained it hasn't rained around here. Still hasn't enough to be worth anything, by the way. :-)
 06/05/2006 10:33:09 PM · #219
Originally posted by Melethia:
Happy Birthday, UNCLEBRO. And I'm the one who complained it hasn't rained around here. Still hasn't enough to be worth anything, by the way. :-)


Thanks :-)

I don't know who complained about the rain.
It doesn't really matter who it was.
I didn't even specifically mean that challenge.
I was refering to any and every challenge.
I'm just fed up with moaning really.
Even though I'm moaning myself.
I guess that makes me hypocritical.
And I hate hypocrites.
Aaarrrrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 06/05/2006 10:38:13 PM · #220
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Originally posted by yanko:
If we want to get really technical then 100% of the entries in this challenge are DNMC because not one of them has an empty room in the shot. You want an empty room that room better exist as a vacuum.


amen brother!


My room wasn't vacuumed prior to the shot. Thank goodness for the clone tool. :-) And I used a special pre-approved filter which sucked all the air out of the room in post-processing....


Ah but now you removed a major element! :P
 06/05/2006 10:41:12 PM · #221
Originally posted by yanko:


Ah but now you removed a major element! :P


I don't know of the air was a major element, but I am worried that the sheer amount of car hair and kitty litter removed might constitute a major element....
 06/05/2006 10:49:30 PM · #222
Originally posted by scarbrd:
A person with wearing a hat is 2 things, also IMO.


please tell me you're not serious! a person wearing a hat is two things??? what about a person wearing glasses? is that also 2 things? or a person wearing a suit, underwear, socks and shoes?


06/05/2006 10:54:16 PM · #223
Originally posted by Melethia:
...the sheer amount of car hair...


How hairy IS your car?
 06/05/2006 11:00:59 PM · #224
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Melethia:
...the sheer amount of car hair...


How hairy IS your car?


LOL!!! I was thinkin it... I just didn't say it!
06/05/2006 11:13:57 PM · #225
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Melethia:
...the sheer amount of car hair...


How hairy IS your car?


Woops. Typo. ;)

But damn it's a funny typo....
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