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05/26/2006 04:55:36 PM · #1 |
| No cropping, no rotation, absolutely no processing. Not even RAW procesing. Let's discuss. |
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05/26/2006 04:56:29 PM · #2 |
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05/26/2006 04:58:00 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by rex:
Let's not discuss |
Why not?
Message edited by author 2006-05-26 16:58:55. |
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05/26/2006 04:59:49 PM · #4 |
Sorry Sully, that doesn't even sound like fun. ;~(
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05/26/2006 05:00:16 PM · #5 |
| I like the idea. Although most pictures would look bad if you couldn't even sharpen them after resizing. |
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05/26/2006 05:01:16 PM · #6 |
| I think I've seen a challenge in here that was a no editing challenge.... |
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05/26/2006 05:02:09 PM · #7 |
Really does sound boring to me. I'd not be fond of voting on a bunch of flat, dull images either.
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05/26/2006 05:03:44 PM · #8 |
| I am not in favor of this but if it happens, we should also have an "unlimited" challenge where absolutely every editing technique would be legal. Think how much easier it would be on the site council with no DQ requests! |
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05/26/2006 05:03:51 PM · #9 |
| Basic editing rules already limit the contestant significally in terms of post processing. I personally don't see the point in extending that limitation to the point of crippling. |
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05/26/2006 05:04:23 PM · #10 |
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05/26/2006 05:07:45 PM · #11 |
The "HEART" challenge awhile back was also unlimited editing.
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05/26/2006 05:11:57 PM · #12 |
What I see happening is that any image that actually looks good will be voted down for cheating somehow, and SC goes crazy validating a zillion entries that just look "too good".
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05/26/2006 05:13:32 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by shaileshivyas:
Originally posted by rex:
Let's not discuss |
Why not? |
Coz it's stupid, that's why. |
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05/26/2006 05:17:24 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
What I see happening is that any image that actually looks good will be voted down for cheating somehow, and SC goes crazy validating a zillion entries that just look "too good". |
Definitely!
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05/26/2006 05:17:32 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by shaileshivyas:
Originally posted by rex:
Let's not discuss |
Why not? |
Coz it's stupid, that's why. |
I don't think the idea is stupid. I do think it's unworkable for this site.
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05/26/2006 05:19:41 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by shaileshivyas:
Originally posted by rex:
Let's not discuss |
Why not? |
Coz it's stupid, that's why. |
Then we better do it. Stupid is as stupid does. LOL
Edit to add:
We can even name the challenge as "Stupid".
Message edited by author 2006-05-26 17:21:56. |
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05/26/2006 05:26:58 PM · #17 |
| lol! take a stupid picture... hahaha.... the voters would go nuts |
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05/26/2006 05:36:34 PM · #18 |
| More than I would like zero processing, I'd like something like, crop, resize, sharpen only. |
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05/26/2006 05:39:56 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Really does sound boring to me. I'd not be fond of voting on a bunch of flat, dull images either. |
If you expose properly and go for the dramatic lighting that mother nature provides you wouldn't have to worry about dull flat images. ;)
I'm in! I've become lazy since I started shooting in raw mode...it'd do me good! |
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05/26/2006 05:45:22 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Marjo:
I've become lazy since I started shooting in raw mode...it'd do me good! |
I think we all got lazy since we started shooting digital. |
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05/26/2006 08:15:31 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by shaileshivyas:
No cropping, no rotation, absolutely no processing. Not even RAW procesing. Let's discuss. |
So, we are to set our cameras to max 640 at a side? ...forbid shooting in RAW? ...you do know jpgs are processed in camera from RAW, don't you?
My objection to this is the same as it is every time it comes up. Absolutely no processing isn't just unworkable -- it's impossible. Once the limits of processing that is allowed start being drawn out the challenge becomes a contest of equipment -- not photographers.
David
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05/26/2006 08:25:33 PM · #22 |
I donĂ¢€™t understand the whole "no Processing" debate. I think it get's away from what we are trying to do here, make something that is interesting to look at. Even film photography is based on processing the medium after it is shot. If your goal is what mine is, making something that is cool and inspiring to look at, why would we not use every tool that is at our disposal?
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05/26/2006 08:33:47 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Marjo:
If you expose properly and go for the dramatic lighting that mother nature provides you wouldn't have to worry about dull flat images. ;)
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I was thinking more along the lines of midtone contrast and saturation.
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05/26/2006 08:36:05 PM · #24 |
| At this point, I'm all in favor of having it so we can have a reprieve from requests for it for awhile. :) |
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05/26/2006 08:49:19 PM · #25 |
David.C is correct, this challenge would be pretty much impossible to even define. Let's consider what is and is not "processing." As David stated, all cameras process the RAW data internally to produce a final JPEG. If we don't allow shooting RAW (because of the user-selectable RAW processing options) then the Camera's JPEG conversion becomes the processor. Problem is, it's still possible, even on lots of point & shoot cams, to set up options that change contrast, set (possibly whacked-out) white balances, sharpen, even convert to black & white or sepia. Since the JPEG file thus produced is an out-of-camera original, there's no way to know or to verify what settings were used.
In short, the challenge would become a "who can best manipulate their image in camera" challenge. Not that knowing how to use your camera's processing options is a *bad* thing, but the point is, there is really no such thing as "no processing." |
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