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05/25/2006 09:00:25 AM · #26

I'm not at all concerned with who done what to whom or any of that stuff - just wanted to say thanks to Clara for doing good things in general, and by the way, you're way overdue for some challenge submissions, so get out there and shoot something! :-)

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05/25/2006 09:01:13 AM · #27

if it takes 3 months for pug to come back i hope she comes back anyway .. SC did what they had to do yesterday.. their job is made harder by things the posters do and say .. .whether intentional or unintentional

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

05/25/2006 10:37:13 AM · #28

Originally posted by Beagleboy:

Congrats to the SC for taking action on this.

It's nice to see that you guys are taking care of business by doing this kind of job for the greater good of the DPC community. Thanks for taking the time to screen out those who, by intention or just by spillage of their "personality" into cyberspace, have a tendency to make things edgy and vindictive around here.

Power to ya!

I have to agree with this, I don't really care what transpired but it is good to see that SC do have some authority and will use it if needed.

05/25/2006 10:48:06 AM · #29

Originally posted by blemt:

I can say with great conviction that the threads yesterday were just the final flash in the pan. The wheels on everything started over the weekend. I've pointed out to folks before that the forum rules now include a "we don't care who threw the first punch clause". Everyone has a responsibility to keep things fun here. It's just too hard to play the he said, she said, they said game.

The part that I don't understand is, What did ShutterPug do wrong? SC will not tell us or her what she did to break her probation NOR have they contacted her dispite having told many of us that they are in discussions with her. We got immediate response to our emails, but ShutterPug is still waiting for answers.

To those that hope she comes back after a 3 month suspension, I wouldn't count on it. She's very upset that she just renewed her membership, but if the suspension stands, she won't be back.

05/25/2006 11:01:47 AM · #30

3 months?
6 months?
For such prolific posters I would think a 1 week suspension would be enough to cause a pause.

I also think it's pretty crappy for profiles and posts to be deleted, why the need to make it as if the user never existed?
Even if the user was a jerk and flamed etc. getting a message that "This Account Has Been Cancelled" leaves a bad taste in my mouth and adds to the air of secrecy for anything not in SC favor.

Konica Minolta AF 18-70mm f/3.5-5.6(D) DT

05/25/2006 11:10:29 AM · #31

Originally posted by _eug:

SC will not tell us or her what she did to break her probation NOR have they contacted her dispite having told many of us that they are in discussions with her. We got immediate response to our emails, but ShutterPug is still waiting for answers.

She was suspended from Forum posting only for violating probation on several occassions. Frisca sent her a message yesterday asking to bear with us while we review the situation. Patience, please.

kaelva

Konica Minolta Maxxum 5D

05/25/2006 11:11:35 AM · #32

Originally posted by rswank:

profiles where deleted at the users request.. not the sc's request

05/25/2006 11:15:00 AM · #33

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by _eug:
SC will not tell us or her what she did to break her probation NOR have they contacted her dispite having told many of us that they are in discussions with her. We got immediate response to our emails, but ShutterPug is still waiting for answers.

She was suspended from Forum posting only for violating probation on several occassions. Frisca sent her a message yesterday asking to bear with us while we review the situation. Patience, please.

Would you please contact her? She's going batty because everyone else has gotten responses except her. Even simply acknowledging her message would help calm her nerves.

05/25/2006 11:15:41 AM · #34

Will do.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

05/25/2006 11:17:31 AM · #35

Originally posted by scalvert:

Will do.

Thanks, Shannon.

Canon EOS-20D

05/25/2006 11:28:12 AM · #36

Originally posted by rswank:

I also think it's pretty crappy for profiles and posts to be deleted, why the need to make it as if the user never existed?
Even if the user was a jerk and flamed etc. getting a message that "This Account Has Been Cancelled" leaves a bad taste in my mouth and adds to the air of secrecy for anything not in SC favor.

Profiles are automatically deleted when accounts are closed. Accounts are only closed at the request of a user or under extreme circumstances. I don't think there has been any secrecy regarding the disappearance of espy's profile page, if that's what you're referring to. If you're confused, you probably ought to check the Admin announcement section. The deletion was ultimately her own doing.

05/25/2006 12:12:28 PM · #37

Why are they automatically deleted at account closure?
Why not just statused as 'locked' or 'closed' for the sake history?
I can somewhat understand a personal request for deletion being granted but see value in an archival of all participating members, not just of 'current' status.

05/25/2006 12:18:43 PM · #38

Originally posted by rswank:

Challenge Images are kept for history, but user details aren't needed any longer.

frisca

Nikon D70

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

05/25/2006 12:43:51 PM · #39

the only things we insist on keeping when accounts are closed (almost all instances of this are at user request) are challenge entries to protect the integrity of our challenges and the site structure. Personal information in profiles belongs to the user and if they want it gone, we don't archive a copy just for the sake history because that information, though sometimes interesting, doesn't affect site integrity.

oOWonderBreadOo

Canon EOS-5D

05/25/2006 12:56:09 PM · #40

Had to go to bed last night, but just wanted to say to Clara that while everything might be hectic in your life I hope that it is a good thing and that you are happy.

As for Pug, she is missed by me too. The SC knows what a helpful contributor she is, just looking at her profile page will tell you how many comments she dishes out & I hope she will decide to come back.

05/25/2006 01:03:19 PM · #41

Originally posted by frisca:

if they want it gone, we don't archive a copy just for the sake history because that information, though sometimes interesting, doesn't affect site integrity.

You say if they want it gone, and I've also read it's done automatically?
Which is it?

"doesn't affect site integrity"
By integrity if you mean data integrity - not having the profile will not break portions of the site like challenges etc., ok.
But if you mean it isn't necessary to retain closed profiles to maintain this site's integrity as meaning "complete" then I couldn't disagree more. I see no problem with maintaining a history of all users, current or expelled. While the profile describes a user it belongs to the site not to them.

If you mean integrity as being ethically sound; I feel that broken profile links clicked on from controversial and/or heated threads conveys an air of secrecy and potential impropriety when one comes across those threads after the fact.
Please note I said 'air' as I do not believe there is any vindictiveness from SC in these situations but it just smells like tracks covered and/or history rewritten and that doesn't bode well for such a community.

frisca

Nikon D70

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/25/2006 01:10:22 PM · #42

accounts are not removed automatically, and NO the site does not maintain any property over the contents of a biography, only the challenge entries and username. Which still exist even if a user decides to delete all their profile information and any portfolio (non-challenge) images they have. Since we give users this control over their profile, there is no reason we should take away that once they decide they want to leave DPC.

I am truly sorry if you find that offensive, but this is a site that is about digital photography challenges, not the content of the profiles of its users.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

05/25/2006 01:11:09 PM · #43

Pug's profile page still shows up.

05/25/2006 01:13:06 PM · #44

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Pug's profile page still shows up.

Her account wasn't removed and she's still an active member. She just can't post in the forums for a while.

Message edited by author 2006-05-25 13:13:33.

fotomann_forever

05/25/2006 01:13:56 PM · #45

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Pug's profile page still shows up.

I believe we are discussing espy's profile.

ummm, SC can we lock this thread, I believe it's gotten a bit confusing and just causing more questions than answers.

05/25/2006 01:15:12 PM · #46

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

ummm, SC can we lock this thread, I believe it's gotten a bit confusing and just causing more questions than answers.

Yes let's lock it so we can stifle discussion, by all means.