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05/24/2006 06:30:05 AM · #1 |
Just thought that this entry was hilarious but after seeing the results, I am just wondering what you guys read into the amount of ones, twos and threes on this image? Can´t Nikon users take a joke or did most of you think it didn´t meet the challenge or...? Just curious, I know Jason is sitting in his office laughing his ass off right now, if I were him I would take the amount of low scores as a compliment :)
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05/24/2006 06:36:23 AM · #2 |
Well for me the Nikon joke had nothing to do with why i gave it such a low score.
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05/24/2006 06:37:17 AM · #3 |
| Yeah, and since he's an allergist he must find quite hilarious that so many people are "allergic" to his sense of humour ;P |
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05/24/2006 07:36:49 AM · #4 |
i thought this got a surprising amount of ones and twos too. i knew it wouldnt be well recieved by all. and i should have chosen a better title. i didnt realize until after the challenge started that even though i meant it to look like a rough night(drunk) type shot that it may also have looked like a bullemia kinda thing. which was not at all my intention. either way i was a bit dissapointed by my final score. I was told it wasnt a still life in the classic form(of course it wasnt) so it didnt meet challenge(well that wasnt the challenge was it?) lol. ok im still too bitter. also was told lighting was bad but as i understood it lighting was supposed to make the mood of a still life photo and my mood was bad bathroom lighting at night thus the dark background. so any of you have a good answer as to why so many 1's and 2's. i dont drink. im litteraly allergic so maybe its just offensive to people who do drink. like im putting them down or soemthing. i dont know. any insight?.
i did like dr achoos photo. i left him a comment and gave him an 8. its a shame that one didnt do better either. |
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05/24/2006 07:40:18 AM · #5 |
| Larus, I think it was purely the Nikon vs Canon zealots. There are more ones than statistics would predict, but there are more 10s as well. It seems just a few people voted the ends of the scale, probably in reaction to the Nikon joke. |
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05/24/2006 09:02:11 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
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oh, come on. I gave this shot a 7, but surely you realized you were sacrificing your score on this one. It can easily be seen as DNMC and it makes a children's toy do something disgusting. You should know by now how squeamish DPC voters are. It's DrAchoo's scores that are a mystery to me. I guess there are a lot of vindictive Nikon users out there.
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05/24/2006 09:13:08 AM · #7 |
I personally find questions of this ilk rather amusing and almost pointless, since we will never truly find an answer to the quesion posed.
We are all rather quick to question the validity of the 1,2 & 3 scores, but our silence seems to suggest that we agree with the 8, 9 & 10 scores, which is some instances cannot be justified by any reasonable standards.
I did look at the comments posted on your image jaded youth and was surprised to find that you opted not to check off as useful a comment where the author told you why he gave you a 1 score, but did for a rather mundane comment like "ha ha".
With regards to scoring, I gave the good doctor's image a 7, while the other image garned a 4 score from me.
Ray
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05/24/2006 09:13:58 AM · #8 |
| from all the threads still life was defined as arranging two or more inanimate objects and using light to add a mood. thats exactly what i did so although i agree with the other things you said i dont see how it easily can be seen as DNMC |
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05/24/2006 09:16:50 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
I personally find questions of this ilk rather amusing and almost pointless, since we will never truly find an answer to the quesion posed.
We are all rather quick to question the validity of the 1,2 & 3 scores, but our silence seems to suggest that we agree with the 8, 9 & 10 scores, which is some instances cannot be justified by any reasonable standards.
I did look at the comments posted on your image jaded youth and was surprised to find that you opted not to check off as useful a comment where the author told you why he gave you a 1 score, but did for a rather mundane comment like "ha ha".
With regards to scoring, I gave the good doctor's image a 7, while the other image garned a 4 score from me.
Ray |
i checked off the other one who didnt like it just not that one guy who said its not a classic still life so he gave it a one. the challenge wasn't to do a CLASSIC still life. he also called it reasonably well done but still gave a one. it did meet the challenge and he found it reasonably well done but gave a one. that astounds me. i had checked it off but i check everything off and my husband thought i was being too nice checking anyones comment as helpful which i do. so i figured if hes scoring based on erronous information(that it needs to be classic) than why must i except his comment when it was made under false assumptions?
Message edited by author 2006-05-24 09:44:25. |
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05/24/2006 09:22:14 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Larus:
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I gave it a 10 and favorited it!
I love the Nikon Bling Thug White Boy. :-D
When I saw it, I just started laughing. It's hysterical :-D |
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05/24/2006 09:53:19 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
I personally find questions of this ilk rather amusing and almost pointless, since we will never truly find an answer to the quesion posed.
We are all rather quick to question the validity of the 1,2 & 3 scores, but our silence seems to suggest that we agree with the 8, 9 & 10 scores, which is some instances cannot be justified by any reasonable standards.
I did look at the comments posted on your image jaded youth and was surprised to find that you opted not to check off as useful a comment where the author told you why he gave you a 1 score, but did for a rather mundane comment like "ha ha".
With regards to scoring, I gave the good doctor's image a 7, while the other image garned a 4 score from me.
Ray |
i checked off the other one who didnt like it just not that one guy who said its not a classic still life so he gave it a one. the challenge wasn't to do a CLASSIC still life. he also called it reasonably well done but still gave a one. it did meet the challenge and he found it reasonably well done but gave a one. that astounds me. i had checked it off but i check everything off and my husband thought i was being too nice checking anyones comment as helpful which i do. so i figured if hes scoring based on erronous information(that it needs to be classic) than why must i except his comment when it was made under false assumptions? |
Arguing with all the comments you DID get explaining votes isn't going to win you any more explanations. You don't seem very interested in learning why - just in fighting everyone else's opinion. |
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05/24/2006 10:05:12 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
I personally find questions of this ilk rather amusing and almost pointless, since we will never truly find an answer to the quesion posed.
We are all rather quick to question the validity of the 1,2 & 3 scores, but our silence seems to suggest that we agree with the 8, 9 & 10 scores, which is some instances cannot be justified by any reasonable standards.
I did look at the comments posted on your image jaded youth and was surprised to find that you opted not to check off as useful a comment where the author told you why he gave you a 1 score, but did for a rather mundane comment like "ha ha".
With regards to scoring, I gave the good doctor's image a 7, while the other image garned a 4 score from me.
Ray |
i checked off the other one who didnt like it just not that one guy who said its not a classic still life so he gave it a one. the challenge wasn't to do a CLASSIC still life. he also called it reasonably well done but still gave a one. it did meet the challenge and he found it reasonably well done but gave a one. that astounds me. i had checked it off but i check everything off and my husband thought i was being too nice checking anyones comment as helpful which i do. so i figured if hes scoring based on erronous information(that it needs to be classic) than why must i except his comment when it was made under false assumptions? |
Arguing with all the comments you DID get explaining votes isn't going to win you any more explanations. You don't seem very interested in learning why - just in fighting everyone else's opinion. |
I wasnt arguing i was explaining just as im now explaining to you why i responded to THEM. I was under the assumption the forums went both ways. there was a disscusion not just a question and then an answer that you had to except as gospel. thats why its better than the one dimensional comment page. theres more input. but apparently just as i DNMC because calassic was apparently implied and im not a mindreader. I didnt think if someone says DNMC i was just supposed to go "oh . thats it then" and not defend myself.
Message edited by author 2006-05-24 10:06:39. |
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05/24/2006 10:09:11 AM · #13 |
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05/24/2006 10:10:30 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
I wasnt arguing i was explaining just as im now explaining to you why i responded to THEM. I was under the assumption the forums went both ways. there was a disscusion not just a question and then an answer that you had to except as gospel. thats why its better than the one dimensional comment page. theres more input. but apparently just as i DNMC because calassic was apparently implied and im not a mindreader. I didnt think if someone says DNMC i was just supposed to go "oh . thats it then" and not defend myself. |
You're welcome to say whatever you'd like. All I'm saying is don't be surprised if you don't receive further comments on your photo. |
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05/24/2006 10:12:57 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
I wasnt arguing i was explaining just as im now explaining to you why i responded to THEM. I was under the assumption the forums went both ways. there was a disscusion not just a question and then an answer that you had to except as gospel. thats why its better than the one dimensional comment page. theres more input. but apparently just as i DNMC because calassic was apparently implied and im not a mindreader. I didnt think if someone says DNMC i was just supposed to go "oh . thats it then" and not defend myself. |
You're welcome to say whatever you'd like. All I'm saying is don't be surprised if you don't receive further comments on your photo. |
I understand. no hard feelings. i also didnt mean for this thread to be taken so far away from its original purpose to discuss the reasoning behind the ones that drachoos photo recieved. ill now respectfully step away from this thread. |
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05/24/2006 11:49:02 AM · #16 |
I originally came up with the photo while I was in the shower. I chuckled and laughed at the "props" I could use and perhaps lost site of the fact that DPC doesn't typically reward humorous shots. Naturally I thought it would score better than it did.
The technicals are not the best, although I don't think they are terrible either. I didn't iron the sheet, but felt the chaotic wrinkles looked better than straight ones (which I tend to bust people on). I desaturated the shot on purpose and bumped the contrast to try to make it more "edgy". The t-shirt is a bit blown. I do feel the focus and rotation are just fine.
I'm not complaining about the 1s and 2s. I did find it interesting that there are so many compared to the shots around it, but realize the only way that is possible is for it to be balanced by 8-10 scores. I almost yanked it when it was at a 4.2 on the first day, but decided to stick. I do think some of the 1s were from DNMC. Once I saw how big the lenscaps featured in most of the other shots I knew I was going to catch the DNMC wrath. At least I used a 77mm lenscap...
You can't win them all.
Message edited by author 2006-05-24 11:50:09. |
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05/24/2006 11:52:32 AM · #17 |
Same here. I was completely shocked that it was Achoo's, as it doesn't even compare to the rest of his port, quality-wise.
Originally posted by Kerm:
Well for me the Nikon joke had nothing to do with why i gave it such a low score. |
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05/24/2006 11:58:31 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by bravo six:
Same here. I was completely shocked that it was Achoo's, as it doesn't even compare to the rest of his port, quality-wise.
Originally posted by Kerm:
Well for me the Nikon joke had nothing to do with why i gave it such a low score. |
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;) Thanks for the compliment Mychael. It is now my 3rd lowest entry. Perhaps it can help people realize that the "recognition" factor isn't as strong as we fear. I wound up doing 3 self-portraits in a row (something I don't tend to do) and still got a low score and nobody commented it was me except Rikki who has spent time with me. |
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05/24/2006 12:09:24 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Perhaps it can help people realize that the "recognition" factor isn't as strong as we fear. I wound up doing 3 self-portraits in a row (something I don't tend to do) and still got a low score and nobody commented it was me except Rikki who has spent time with me. |
Then there are people like me - full of scruples and a very annoying conscience - who try their hardest to judge the photo fairly for the photo's sake, not for the photographer's.
Even when I do recognize someone, I really try not to let that influence me in either direction.
So.... even though I knew it was you, I still docked you a couple of points for the lack of quality :-P (still got a 6 from me, though) |
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05/24/2006 01:00:52 PM · #20 |
Finished one spot ahead of Dr.Achoo with 12 ones and 13 twos. And, DrAchoo is partially correct. Humor isn't well recieved at DPC, unless it's very subtle G-rated humor.
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05/24/2006 01:08:33 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Finished one spot ahead of Dr.Achoo with 12 ones and 13 twos. And, DrAchoo is partially correct. Humor isn't well recieved at DPC, unless it's very subtle G-rated humor. |
I don't necessarily agree. If it is funny I think it can be well received but in the case of this photo it just really isn't funny. Felt more pandering than anything. Pandering and funny works, just pandering doesn't. |
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05/24/2006 01:09:22 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
...Humor isn't well recieved at DPC... |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
...DPC doesn't typically reward humorous shots. |
I can attest to that. ;-)
Message edited by author 2006-05-24 13:09:55.
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05/24/2006 01:11:44 PM · #23 |
Don't discount the "prude" aspect either; images that feature condoms and/or the word "SUX" prominently displayed are gonna get some ones. No two ways about it, funny or not.
Robt.
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05/24/2006 01:12:37 PM · #24 |
| It's the visible unmentionables that got that image all the ones. And the belly-button. |
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05/24/2006 01:13:16 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Finished one spot ahead of Dr.Achoo with 12 ones and 13 twos. And, DrAchoo is partially correct. Humor isn't well recieved at DPC, unless it's very subtle G-rated humor. |
I don't necessarily agree. If it is funny I think it can be well received but in the case of this photo it just really isn't funny. Felt more pandering than anything. Pandering and funny works, just pandering doesn't. |
You thought this was pandering. Thats funny what I see is a great idea and well executed shot that suffered from some Uptight voters. I think it should have done a lot better.
Just My $.02 |
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