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05/10/2006 06:26:04 PM · #1 |
I was perusing photos today and saw a bunch that had multiple critiques labeled as being from 'critique club' when in fact they are from others in their little cliques/groups/teams or whatever it is.
Can we discourage the use of the name 'critique club' unless it comes from the official DPC Critique Club? |
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05/10/2006 06:27:27 PM · #2 |
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05/10/2006 06:32:06 PM · #3 |
| If you see any, report them to HBunch or Manic so that they can sort it out. I agree that the name should probably stick to being from the club itself, or that there should be some official way of making sure it is. |
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05/10/2006 06:35:18 PM · #4 |
| I was wondering if you mention this because of the recent "Trading Post" stuff. Though I no longer do the Trading Post comments, two of us are also CC members. So I was wondering if you bring this up because you saw our "Trading Post" thread, and subsequently saw our legitimate CC comments. |
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05/10/2006 06:41:40 PM · #5 |
What I saw, on one photo, were 4 comments all labeled something like "hello from your critique club" "hello from your personal critique club" and similar. Then when I looked at two of the commentor profiles, they were not in the official DPC critique club AND also had multiple comments on images labeled the same.
I will see if I can backtrack my browsing to find the same photos again. I had multiple tabs open and a lot of images and profiles open and was more concerned with the critique club label than the actual photos.
Originally posted by Louis:
I was wondering if you mention this because of the recent "Trading Post" stuff. Though I no longer do the Trading Post comments, two of us are also CC members. So I was wondering if you bring this up because you saw our "Trading Post" thread, and subsequently saw our legitimate CC comments. |
have not looked at the trading post thread. saw the comments on photos.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 18:44:04. |
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05/10/2006 06:44:40 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
... Then when I looked at two of the commentor profiles, they were not in the official DPC critique club ... |
where can you see if the person is in the CC? |
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05/10/2006 06:48:32 PM · #7 |
Also, people have come and gone from the CC. I used to be in but suspect I'm no longer listed as I'm not very active in it anymore...
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05/10/2006 06:52:18 PM · #8 |
How do you distinguish from the two? Just wondering. I have a few photos that contain critiques from 'The Critique Club'
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05/10/2006 06:52:38 PM · #9 |
i do apologise. we were just using shorthand - critique trading post marque II is soooo long to type. as we all know who we are in the trading post, we just seemed start that shorthand. i'll keep it crit trading post from now on! or maybe ctpmii?;-)
i think it was a bit of a nod and a wink - you know our crit club.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 18:55:17.
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05/10/2006 06:56:25 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by xianart:
I do apologise. We were just using shorthand - critique trading post marque II is soooo long to type. As we all know who we are in the trading post, we just seemed start that shorthand. I'll keep it crit trading post from now on! |
Ah that is what is was...I remember one of them had ctpm as the identifier and I had no idea what that meant so didn't count it as the same.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 18:59:41. |
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05/10/2006 06:57:10 PM · #11 |
The Critique Club is long been the official club of DPC. Any comments from the club should just be "The Critique Club". If the trading post people are using "the critique club" or similar variant, they should stop using so as not to confuse people. "From the Trading Post" or similar would be better.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 18:57:39. |
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05/10/2006 06:57:32 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by xianart:
i do apologise. we were just using shorthand - critique trading post marque II is soooo long to type. as we all know who we are in the trading post, we just seemed start that shorthand. i'll keep it crit trading post from now on! or maybe ctpmii?;-)
i think it was a bit of a nod and a wink - you know our crit club. |
I've been using CTP2 as my intro for our group ;-)
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05/10/2006 07:01:55 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by luv2photo:
How do you distinguish from the two? Just wondering. I have a few photos that contain critiques from 'The Critique Club' |
Because most, if not all, in the Critique Club start their critiques by identifying it as from the 'critique club' using something like "Hello from the Critique Club" or similar. |
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05/10/2006 07:22:21 PM · #14 |
i've gone back and edited my ctp2 comments as such. sorry for the confusion. not thinking...
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05/10/2006 07:59:15 PM · #15 |
The people receiving these other critiques are expecting them and is being left on their photos so I don't understand why someone not in that particular group would care. Not trying to sound rude or anything I just don't understand why this is an issue for you or anybody else not receiving these critiques. They are not confusing to those receiving them.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 19:59:56.
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05/10/2006 08:02:22 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by yanko:
The people receiving these other critiques are expecting them and is being left on their photos so I don't understand why someone not in that particular group would care. Not trying to sound rude or anything I just don't understand why this is an issue for you or anybody else not receiving these critiques. They are not confusing to those receiving them. |
It is an issue to me because I am an official member of the official Critique Club. If you wish to use that name, join the club. The fees are after all very reasonable.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 20:02:37. |
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05/10/2006 08:07:58 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
It is an issue to me because I am an official member of the official Critique Club. If you wish to use that name, join the club. The fees are after all very reasonable. |
ditto! |
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05/10/2006 08:09:19 PM · #18 |
Ah ok, it was a petty reason.
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05/10/2006 08:14:05 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Ah ok, it was a petty reason. |
I take that as an insult. I volunteered my time to help others as a whole community to improve their photography. I'm insulted that a small clique of users would also use that title. Instead of playing in your little reindeer group, join the club. The excuse that was given in starting your little group was that no one ever really got critiques. If more people joined it would be easier to get through the huge queue that always exists...
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05/10/2006 08:17:21 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Ah ok, it was a petty reason. |
to you perhaps. But the official DPC Critique Club is a part of the site where your little club is outside the site framework. People check a box to get a critique club critique and we do it as a volunteer. When I am assigned an image from the Critique Club and I open it and there are three Critiques all labeled 'critique club' critiques (when in fact none of them are) but I don't know that, I will request a new image based on the fact that it appears that the Critique Club already critiqued it (which shouldn't be able to happen since an image is assigned to only one CC member). Thus the photog won't get the Critique Club critique they were looking for.
If you so desparately want to give official 'critiques', as TooCool said, join the club. If not, please use a different identifier. I don't think this is too much to ask and it leaves the integrity of the official DCP Critique Club intact.
EDIT: And as TooCool posted while I was typing, it is sort of an insult/slap in the face.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 20:19:54. |
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05/10/2006 08:21:30 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
Originally posted by yanko:
Ah ok, it was a petty reason. |
I take that as an insult. |
Ok so we agree on something. I took your initial reply to me the same. Hence my reply.
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05/10/2006 08:24:35 PM · #22 |
I am a "member" of one of these comment trading groups (I don't actually label my posts whatever it is we call ourselves when I leave a comment). What I found in the beginning journey of this excercise was that I was interested in leaving more comments. I joined the official CC today and began leaving critiques through that arena. I also noticed that several of the people in our group are also CC members. I think it should be encouraged of all of our tarding post participants to sign up for CC even if they only leave one extra comment a week/challenge. That could be 20 extra CC comments as a whole with each person giving 10 critiques rather than 9.
Edit - Looking back at the comments I have recieved frm my group - they are all labeled (when Labeled) as some variation of "Trading Post"
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 20:27:31. |
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05/10/2006 08:54:58 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
When I am assigned an image from the Critique Club and I open it and there are three Critiques all labeled 'critique club' critiques (when in fact none of them are) but I don't know that, I will request a new image based on the fact that it appears that the Critique Club already critiqued it (which shouldn't be able to happen since an image is assigned to only one CC member). Thus the photog won't get the Critique Club critique they were looking for. |
THAT'S all you or TooCool had to say. I asked a question and this would have answered it except I got a sarcastic response.
Originally posted by Alienyst:
If you so desparately want to give official 'critiques', as TooCool said, join the club. If not, please use a different identifier. I don't think this is too much to ask and it leaves the integrity of the official DCP Critique Club intact. |
Desperate? Umm ok. I'm volunteering my time to help a group of others who obviously wanted the feedback, which is no different than what you're doing yet you're coming across like I've invaded your territory. Btw, I did inquire about joining the critique club a while back but got the same response I get everytime I check those critique boxes which is to say nothing happened, zero response.
Edited for clarity.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 20:56:08.
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05/10/2006 08:58:37 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by yanko:
THAT'S all you or TooCool had to say. I asked a question and this would have answered it except I got a sarcastic response. |
It was meant as a friendly jab... If you take it as sarcastic that is your perogative...
Originally posted by yanko:
I'm volunteering my time to help a group of others who obviously wanted the feedback, which is no different than what you're doing yet you're coming across like I've invaded your territory. |
You have volunteered to help and that is honorable. However you're only helping a small group where the CC is attempting to help the site as a whole...
Originally posted by yanko:
I did inquire about joining the critique club a while back but got the same response I get everytime I check those critique boxes which is to say nothing happened, zero response. |
Did you go through the Community|Critique Club link? You have to remember that even those in charge of CC are volunteers and you may have been overlooked. I'm sorry that happened. As far as your last comment, I will overlook the implied insult that the CC don't do anything. There are currently 350+ images in the queue and 44 members actively trying to knock that down.
Message edited by author 2006-05-10 21:03:28. |
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05/10/2006 08:59:44 PM · #25 |
I am too a member of one of those "critique clubs" and I have now changed all my comments so that they say "comment club". Hope that will do the trick because of course we do not want to let people think that we are "The" DPC Critique club.
Actually it said before: "Member of your own DPCritique club" but I see that it can easily be misinterperated so I changed it.
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