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 05/07/2006 03:05:45 AM · #51
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Either way terry, it's all going to a great cause ;) Kudos to you ;)

All going to a good cause except for the $200 to $500 that is being paid out to the participants. If my math is correct it's only 69% of the money collected that is going to the charity.


If prize payouts help encourage participation, then everyone wins. MS gets a donation they wouldn't have otherwise, the participants have fun, and some lucky or good photographers get a bit of a bonus. What's the point in pointing out something like this? As if everyone is having the wool pulled down over their eyes and something shady is going on? Honestly...

Everyone participating knows that a percentage of their donation will be paid back out into prize money. It's above board and right there for everyone to see. So either let it go, or donate some money to this or another cause in your own name independant of this tournament and feel good about it on your own time.

*EDIT* and please, like anyone honestly thought Rikki's post meant that ANYONE thought *all* proceeds go to the charity and needed anything pointed out.. whatever.

Message edited by author 2006-05-07 03:07:07.
 05/07/2006 03:06:09 AM · #52
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Either way terry, it's all going to a great cause ;) Kudos to you ;)

All going to a good cause except for the $200 to $500 that is being paid out to the participants. If my math is correct it's only 69% of the money collected that is going to the charity.


But then everyone gets to guilt the winners into donating their prizes to charity too and then it's fun for the whole family!
 05/07/2006 03:11:31 AM · #53
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Either way terry, it's all going to a great cause ;) Kudos to you ;)

All going to a good cause except for the $200 to $500 that is being paid out to the participants. If my math is correct it's only 69% of the money collected that is going to the charity.


I don't know about you, but where I live I see fundraisers with prizes all the time. Off the top of my head I can think of Bingo games, 50/50 raffles, and plenty of other similar concepts. To a very large extent, these prizes entice people to participate and can greatly increase the amount of money raised. Personally, I'm on track to crush my personal fundraising record, so I have no regrets about structuring these tournaments the way I have.

Of course, if you wish to ensure that 100% of your donation goes to the National MS Society, you are certainly welcome to donate directly to the National MS Society in support of my walk effort.

Thanks,
Terry
 05/07/2006 03:14:45 AM · #54
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Either way terry, it's all going to a great cause ;) Kudos to you ;)

All going to a good cause except for the $200 to $500 that is being paid out to the participants. If my math is correct it's only 69% of the money collected that is going to the charity.


Hey how about joining Harvey and just go with the fun???? Why do you always have to put a slant to everything? sheeesh!

Sorry to be so terribly disagreeable Rikki, but I believe that it was you who was putting the slant on it. I was just trying to correct your misleading post. Why do you always have to post before you think about what you are saying? sheeesh!


Hey I for one am donating everything if I win it all. I mean really? Do you really think myself or anyone else would walk away with cash prizes that was a sidebar to an MS Challenge? If I win the first one, let it be known that the MS Walk keeps all of it.

Why don`t you join like I mentioned? If not then donate something. If not, then let us just all have fun without your negativity.
 05/07/2006 03:16:25 AM · #55
Originally posted by Rikki:
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Rikki:
Either way terry, it's all going to a great cause ;) Kudos to you ;)

All going to a good cause except for the $200 to $500 that is being paid out to the participants. If my math is correct it's only 69% of the money collected that is going to the charity.


Hey how about joining Harvey and just go with the fun???? Why do you always have to put a slant to everything? sheeesh!

Sorry to be so terribly disagreeable Rikki, but I believe that it was you who was putting the slant on it. I was just trying to correct your misleading post. Why do you always have to post before you think about what you are saying? sheeesh!


Hey I for one am donating everything if I win it all. I mean really? Do you really think myself or anyone else would walk away with cash prizes that was a sidebar to an MS Challenge? If I win the first one, let it be known that the MS Walk keeps all of it.

Why don`t you join like I mentioned? If not then donate something. If not, then let us just all have fun without your negativity.


Actually, sorry to burst this particular bubble.. but I'd keep the prize money. I could really use it. lol.
 05/07/2006 03:18:12 AM · #56
Originally posted by Artyste:

Actually, sorry to burst this particular bubble.. but I'd keep the prize money. I could really use it. lol.


damn you :P
 05/07/2006 03:19:06 AM · #57
Originally posted by Rikki:
Originally posted by Artyste:

Actually, sorry to burst this particular bubble.. but I'd keep the prize money. I could really use it. lol.


damn you :P


It's moot though, as I'm moving at the end of the month and can't compete in Tourney #2 anyway.. I'm going to be poverty level broke for probably at least the summer.
 05/07/2006 03:19:15 AM · #58
I want to play...and I'm happy with any of the formats
 05/07/2006 03:25:30 AM · #59
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
... Of course, if you wish to ensure that 100% of your donation goes to the National MS Society, you are certainly welcome to donate directly to the National MS Society in support of my walk effort.

Thanks,
Terry

What I wish to do at this site is, and what I paid for, is to learn, to share what I have learned with others, and to compete in digital photography challenges where the only prizes are virtual ribbons and all the contestants are competing for the same prizes. Thanks to you, and your use of dpc as a venue to raise funds for your favorite charity, my ability to do that is in doubt.
05/07/2006 03:29:14 AM · #60
Originally posted by coolhar:
Thanks to you, and your use of dpc as a venue to raise funds for your favorite charity, my ability to do that is in doubt.


Are you serious?!
 05/07/2006 03:30:42 AM · #61
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
... Of course, if you wish to ensure that 100% of your donation goes to the National MS Society, you are certainly welcome to donate directly to the National MS Society in support of my walk effort.

Thanks,
Terry

What I wish to do at this site is, and what I paid for, is to learn, to share what I have learned with others, and to compete in digital photography challenges where the only prizes are virtual ribbons and all the contestants are competing for the same prizes. Thanks to you, and your use of dpc as a venue to raise funds for your favorite charity, my ability to do that is in doubt.


If you wish to discuss whether it is appropriate to have these types of activities on DPChallenge, then I invite you to start a new thread for the purpose, or to contact Site Council directly via the help/contact page if you prefer, as I would prefer that this thread not be dragged off-topic.

Either way, I need some sleep. I'll be happy to reply to any concerns you may have in the morning.

Thanks,
Terry
 05/07/2006 03:32:55 AM · #62
Originally posted by GIS_boy:
Originally posted by coolhar:
Thanks to you, and your use of dpc as a venue to raise funds for your favorite charity, my ability to do that is in doubt.


Are you serious?!
Yes, I am. Please take a few moments to think about how having money at stake changes the challenges.
 05/07/2006 03:33:13 AM · #63
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
... Of course, if you wish to ensure that 100% of your donation goes to the National MS Society, you are certainly welcome to donate directly to the National MS Society in support of my walk effort.

Thanks,
Terry

What I wish to do at this site is, and what I paid for, is to learn, to share what I have learned with others, and to compete in digital photography challenges where the only prizes are virtual ribbons and all the contestants are competing for the same prizes. Thanks to you, and your use of dpc as a venue to raise funds for your favorite charity, my ability to do that is in doubt.


I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this. Nothing has changed. People are still competeing under the same rules as ever. If anything, it's gotten more people to enter.. but that's always the goal of the site. Are you worried that because of prizes in a side-tournament that people will.. *gasp*.. try harder? Submit better photographs? What? Worried that people will try to cheat more? Terry's taken care of that problem by having every entrant with a possibility of winning a cash prize validated... and people know they will be.. and people cheated for your precious virtual ribbons anyway.

I don't see how this thing is taking away from anyone learning or helping. If anything, it'll only increase that aspect of things as well.

Also, it's not like this is a site-wide side-competition. It's a select group of first-come, first-serve entrants that each donate a certain amount of their own money for a cause.. my lord, call the authorities.

You're really going to have to explain further, because I just can't see how *any* of this *actually* affects the competition that you payed for, or affects any of the site aspects you claim are being put in doubt.

*EDIT* However, in the interests of Terry's request, you can respond to me through PM or in a new thread.

Message edited by author 2006-05-07 03:34:47.
 05/07/2006 08:00:55 AM · #64
Yes, count me in this time, and the next, and the next...etc. I am more interested in #1 then the rest, at least for this round. It's a bit hard financially for me in the higher amount brackets this month. We only get paid once a month in this house, and its at the beginning of any given month, so in order to budget something like this mid month, it is too difficult. If it starts at the beginning of a given month, I would be more apt to join the higher bracket options. Maybe offer just the $10 this month again, and then post that next month there will be the options of higher costs available?

Also, I would like to see a better selection of who goes up against who (maybe a hat pick). Last time it seemed those with the better score averages were paired against those with the least score averages, which put us *smile* at an immediate disadvantage for round one.

I also don't mind it if there are separate challenges other than those given on normal DPC rounds of exclusives for this challenge. The challenges could be posted by Clubjuggle on the actual bracket page/s; or could even be polled - have three to vote on to do for the next round and let the polls speak for themselves as to what the next challenge will be. Something like Alionic does on Photographers Network.

It doesn't matter to me either way actually (refering to the above paragraph), however, it would eliminate concerns those like Coolhar has, and unfortunately, I also see the same problems Coolhar does in the normal challenges each week. With so many side challenges, and I assume side discussions on those challenges outside of DPC, I have seen influxes of whacky scoring technique occur and even "possible" anonymity given up in some instances from those possible outside discussions. Not to mention that a lot of discussion on scores during challenge have been geared less towards DPC's purpose and its regular function, and placed more heavily on the side challenges and smack talk. And certainly it can't be denied that the recent Free Study with Comments as a side rule being an issue that many were out there giving comments only to enter the challenge. This "is" an actual example of how a challenge can change the normal DPC routine. With that said, although I do not think this is really effecting the DPC purpose in general to any extreme extent, it does seem that side challenges are becoming the popular trend, and it does deter from DPC's "normal" and regular balance of things to a certain degree.

And lastly, I think you would have enough interest to have a Team Suck (or maybe use a nicer word :), and a team medium or mediocre, and then a team advantage or something, when it comes to bracketing and the score averages of those who are interested. Maybe for those with a 6.0 or above be on Team Advantage, those with an average between a 5.2 and 5.9 be on Team Medium Advantage, and then those with an average score of 5.1 or less be on Team Average Advantage, for examples. This would also cause more to want to enter I would think. I would assume, the way some were seeded last time, that those with the lower average scores felt a deterance in entering.

However, once again, it doesn't matter to me either way, but I do think the interest would be there. I don't understand why there has to be exactly 64 people for each. You could break that down, and even break down the winning amounts winners would receive in order to have it work? Just a suggestion, but again, I am pretty open to whatever becomes the actual reality.

Message edited by author 2006-05-07 08:21:39.
 05/07/2006 08:50:02 AM · #65
I,m in for either, but format two would be my preference. I had a good time sweating my scores for those three weeks! Just say when you need the money.
 05/21/2006 06:15:16 PM · #66
Terry, has this been shelfed or are you still considering a second go-around?

David
 05/21/2006 06:45:07 PM · #67
great idea. i'm in if you do the first format. How do i send money?

now...
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
... Of course, if you wish to ensure that 100% of your donation goes to the National MS Society, you are certainly welcome to donate directly to the National MS Society in support of my walk effort.

Thanks,
Terry

What I wish to do at this site is, and what I paid for, is to learn, to share what I have learned with others, and to compete in digital photography challenges where the only prizes are virtual ribbons and all the contestants are competing for the same prizes. Thanks to you, and your use of dpc as a venue to raise funds for your favorite charity, my ability to do that is in doubt.


I can't believe that this discussion is happening. CHARITY>>>
maybe i'm contributing to the argument, but... whew. i'm done talking
 05/22/2006 10:24:01 PM · #68
i'm in. any of the options. maybe they'll be able to stop it before my brain completey withers away...

and, with some of the kibitzing in mind, if i win (hah hah hah aha haha hah haha haha haha haha haha......ROTFLMAO) the lolly goes to ms too. damn it, them thar men in white coats better make me better, ya hear?;-)
 05/22/2006 10:25:30 PM · #69
Is this considered gambling?
 05/22/2006 11:00:23 PM · #70
Originally posted by crayon:
Is this considered gambling?


I can't see how, we aren't betting on the winners, just speculation. The bulk of money is going to charity and it seems most of the winners put the money back in as well, if I remember correctly. ;)

Deannda
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