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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

05/03/2006 03:50:00 PM · #1

Just had an idea for a challenge by the cheese man in this thread.

How about we have no scores for a change, I think it would be great for just one challenge if nobody could see what score they were sitting on just the comments.

It could be done in one of the open challenges so those that wanted to take part could and those that didn't could enter in the other challenge. Imagine the suspense that would build up by the end of the week.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

05/03/2006 03:53:37 PM · #2

I'm not sure, but I think you just redefined insanity. . .

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/03/2006 03:55:46 PM · #3

Originally posted by karmat:

I'm not sure, but I think you just redefined insanity. . .

Sorry i don't explain myself very well what i mean is we still vote but we just can't see the score until the end.

I am a little bit on the wacky side they do tell me.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

05/03/2006 03:56:34 PM · #4

Originally posted by keegbow:

I am a little bit on the wacky side they do tell me.

They underestimate you. ;-P

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/03/2006 03:58:27 PM · #5

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by keegbow:
I am a little bit on the wacky side they do tell me.

They underestimate you. ;-P

OK then a lot on the wacky side but not as much as the cheese man

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

05/03/2006 04:02:03 PM · #6

I think it would be an interesting experiment, but I think it would have to be done for at least a week across all challenges to have real statistical validity.

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/03/2006 04:04:44 PM · #7

Originally posted by keegbow:

I am a little bit on the wacky side they do tell me.

It isn't by any chance full moon in Australia is it?

alfresco

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/03/2006 04:05:30 PM · #8

I think it's a great idea!!

But talk about server crash on roll over!

Classify it as a "suspense" challenge (as opposed to free study or technical).

Enter. Wait a week. Watch gary get his ribbon. See what the rest of us get!

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/03/2006 04:08:09 PM · #9

Originally posted by kiwiness:

Originally posted by keegbow:
I am a little bit on the wacky side they do tell me.

It isn't by any chance full moon in Australia is it?

No but I've been up since 2.00am walking outside in the freezing cold. That could explain a bit of it.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

05/03/2006 04:08:40 PM · #10

Originally posted by alfresco:

Enter. Wait a week. Watch gary get his ribbon. See what the rest of us get!

ROFL!

05/03/2006 04:09:11 PM · #11

Originally posted by GeneralE:

I think it would be an interesting experiment, but I think it would have to be done for at least a week across all challenges to have real statistical validity.

I'm not interested in the stats, I like it for the fun of it and its different.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

05/03/2006 04:14:13 PM · #12

Originally posted by alfresco:

Enter. Wait a week. Watch gary get his ribbon. See what the rest of us get!

Very funny didn't think of that, at least Gary wouldn't know if it was a 8 plus image or a 7 plus image.

saracat

Pentax K10D

05/03/2006 04:15:56 PM · #13

While I think it's an interesting experiment, I think you'd end up with a LOT of really unhappy people.
Most of the time I've noticed that people who comment tend to leave higher scores than those who don't. If we're only able to see comments - especially if they're all positive - we'll be expecting a much higher score than we'll get. Which equals very unhappy participants at rollover.

Perhaps a way to try this would be to make it an extra challenge and require comments with votes for this one challenge only. Also require that comments would have to be more than, say, four or five words for the comment and vote to count.
While this might deter some from voting, if it is stressed that you only have to vote/comment on 20% (or even change it for this challenge), perhaps you'd get enough response.

I don't know if this would be too hard to code. It's just a thought.

*edit - forgot something

Message edited by author 2006-05-03 16:16:58.

alfresco

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/03/2006 04:16:23 PM · #14

Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by GeneralE:
I think it would be an interesting experiment, but I think it would have to be done for at least a week across all challenges to have real statistical validity.

... I like it for the fun of it and its different.

I agree with both statements.

I would even *enter* this challenge :)

fotomann_forever

05/03/2006 04:19:34 PM · #15

I, the cheese man, think "suspense" challenges are an excellent idea.

I alos agree with GeneralE that it should be across the board to collect real data on the validity of visible socres influencing voter response.

Edit: but we could just do one challenge just for fun and screw the data.

Message edited by author 2006-05-03 16:22:12.

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

05/03/2006 04:21:26 PM · #16

Originally posted by alfresco:

I would even *enter* this challenge :)

Now let's not get crazy.

LalliSig

Fisher Price Kid-Tough Digital

05/03/2006 04:21:27 PM · #17

You know what? I really think this is a good idea. I am an "update" addict and there is no way I can control myself for a whole week and turn off the scores, I tried it once and didnÂ´t even last 24 hours... I would really like to try this out, think the open challenges would be a good idea to try this out, like you said, have "no scores" in one of the exclusive challenges and the other one normal. Either that or have a thursday challenge.

TroyMosley

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/03/2006 04:21:33 PM · #18

i feel that its definetly worth a try, just test the water, it may be reallly cool,

Nobody

Pentax K-S2

Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO IF for Pentax

05/03/2006 04:32:58 PM · #19

If we are talking about twisted formats, here's one:

"Commenter's Challenge"

For your entry to "survive" (I don't want to call it a DQ), you have to vote and comment on at least 20% of the entries.

The catch - some percentage - lets say 15% of the entries have to end up with comments marked as "helpful".

If we tried this, I would recommend that everyone be automatically bag-headed to ensure that people won't be able to gang-up on anybody and not mark their comments as helpful to keep them from winning (if that is their reputation). I would hate for Ricky or Scalvert to lose out just because nobody would mark their comments as helpful (that's one way to stop them).

This would hopefully lead to quality comments - there certainly would be an incentive.

The only downside I can see is that you couldn't come in and comment on the last night and expect people to have time to mark them as helpful. You would have to make an effort earlier in the week to ensure they had time to be seen.

This would pretty much guarantee that everyone that entered would make on average, 50-60 comments a challenge. If that feels too high, the 20% threshold could be lowered.

Just a thought...

robs

Canon EOS R6 Mk II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/03/2006 04:36:18 PM · #20

Interesting idea and if not too much effort would be fun to watch.

Actually: What would be more fun is to show a score as normal but randomly pick a score from any photo instead of just getting yours every time :-))