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05/02/2006 01:50:59 PM · #26
Originally posted by Artyste:

You've missed my point. I'm not referring to what people do with their images after the challenges are over. I'm referring to the thought that voters should be scoring good images high even if they're in challenges that they don't fit in. That's just not something I think voters should be expected to do.

You are right and it is an essential skill for any photographer to be able to take images specifically geared toward a particular audience (challenge), even when it differs from their own interest area. That is how you make a living as a professional photographer.

Not to say either of us is right or wrong in our views, but here is where we differ... you put a higher weight to meeting the challenge than I do. That is simply because I trust my abilty to rate an image's technical quality far more than my ability to evaluate a challenge topic. You are better at that than I am. I've got no problem with that. Though I will up a score based upon meeeting a challenge topic well, according to my interpretation of that topic, I give less value to that than an images's photographic merit.
05/02/2006 01:56:24 PM · #27
Originally posted by stdavidson:

Originally posted by Artyste:

You've missed my point. I'm not referring to what people do with their images after the challenges are over. I'm referring to the thought that voters should be scoring good images high even if they're in challenges that they don't fit in. That's just not something I think voters should be expected to do.

You are right and it is an essential skill for any photographer to be able to take images specifically geared toward a particular audience (challenge), even when it differs from their own interest area. That is how you make a living as a professional photographer.

Not to say either of us is right or wrong in our views, but here is where we differ... you put a higher weight to meeting the challenge than I do. That is simply because I trust my abilty to rate an image's technical quality far more than my ability to evaluate a challenge topic. You are better at that than I am. I've got no problem with that. Though I will up a score based upon meeeting a challenge topic well, according to my interpretation of that topic, I give less value to that than an images's photographic merit.


Obviously, based on your score, voters agree more with Artyste than with you. That's just the way it is, and that's clearly why you got the low score. There's no mystery here. Either adapt or get low scores.

Personally, I gave you a 5. I deducted points for "shoehorning" but I refuse to go below a 5 for a beautiful picture like that.
05/02/2006 02:00:31 PM · #28
Originally posted by Artyste:

We have challenge topics. The challenge is to shoot something that fits those topics and appeals to the masses.


Very hard to do when some have such a narrow view as to what is "on topic". That's the problem not people choosing to ignore the topic. It's gotten ridicious trying to figure out what voters want, which is why we get so many entries that are totally devoid of creativity and the ones we "think" are creative really are not.
05/02/2006 02:08:45 PM · #29
Originally posted by posthumous:


Obviously, based on your score, voters agree more with Artyste than with you. That's just the way it is, and that's clearly why you got the low score. There's no mystery here. Either adapt or get low scores.

Personally, I gave you a 5. I deducted points for "shoehorning" but I refuse to go below a 5 for a beautiful picture like that.

There is nothing flawed in your reasoning and I appreciate your thinking. It just differs from my own. I believe it possible that I could display that very picture in a gallery display of southwestern fine art photography in a future exhibit. Should that happen I'm sure I will reflect on the DPC "DNMC" view that such an image cannot possibly be rated better than mediocre.

Message edited by author 2006-05-02 14:16:00.
05/02/2006 02:09:25 PM · #30
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:


Mass appeal is over-rated. It generally means high on asthetics low on meaning. It's great if you want to produce post cards or shoot for Hallmark.


When does that Joey Lawrence line of warm fuzzy cards come out again?


Those would be cards I would buy! Joey L is an exception, not the norm.
05/02/2006 02:29:33 PM · #31
Originally posted by stdavidson:



...I'd be proud to submit that picture in a gallery showing of southwestern desert fine art photography anywhere, anytime.


Would you submit that photo in a gallery showing of "Rivers of the Midwest" fine art photography? How about the "Education" photography gallery?

:)
05/02/2006 02:44:32 PM · #32
One suggestion. How about displaying the last vote score?
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