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05/02/2006 09:36:03 AM · #1 |
Gawd, my mojo has completely deserted me
After a run of 6+ scores from January, then a couple of 5+ scores, my current submission is sitting in the 4's (talk about a downward slide)
I understand I can reqest a self DQ but don't know if I should go down that route.
sigh, it's not that important really but even for a virtual ribbon in a fun online challenge it kinda gets you down a bit.
:-(
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05/02/2006 09:40:17 AM · #2 |
my opinion ... take your beating, move on - but i don't think there's a wrong answer. a self dq is absolutely your right. you produced awesome stuff in the past, you'll produce awesome stuff in the future.
even jj has entered a few duds, but i don't think anyone would question his talent
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05/02/2006 09:43:23 AM · #3 |
I've had 6's and even a few 7's and then - whammo! - a 4.something in the Children's Toy challenge. Ugh. But this site is all about fun, and I had fun creating my sucky shot, so I just blew off the bad score and learned not to do that again.
I'd just forget about it and move on to your next shot, where you can really make up for it! :)
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05/02/2006 09:46:30 AM · #4 |
Self-DQ's should not be for score saving purposes. *blargh*
To me that's a coward. Learn from your mistakes. Learn from the comments. And realize, if you self-DQ you could find yourself with an actual DQ sometime and find your account suspended.
I disagree with Hopper. I don't think a self-DQ is your right. I think it's pretentious and unfair - flat out poor sportsmanship. The photo should either be DQ'd or not based on it's eligibility NOT how well it's doing.
And scores do not always reflect the quality of a photo. Often times people won't see how it meets challenges because they're not insightful enough or educated enough to see an alternative angle or meaning and will score low. Often voters will vote down an excellent shot because they think it's a photoshopped DQ. And instead of requesting a DQ they vote it down. There are lots of reasons a good photo scores low.
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05/02/2006 09:46:51 AM · #5 |
| Just a thought, Tallbloke: If you Self-DQ, whenever someone looks at your portfolio page they'll see the pretty pink stripe and go down to have a look. Whereas, a 4.0 just fades into the woodwork and if anybody does see it, they will probably think "oh, yeah, I've been there too." |
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05/02/2006 09:49:28 AM · #6 |
| Grin and bear it. I've had lots of fours and just let them go. I did finally withdraw an image after I accidentally entered it in the wrong challenge, though. I can live with a low score, but that one was just out of place. It's simply not possible to have a great score every single time. Even Kiwiness poted a dud recently, and another member actually quit rather than have an image bring down his precious average. Repeat after me: It's just for fun... |
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05/02/2006 09:51:01 AM · #7 |
Yeah, Ive been there.
I shot a figurine on my desk at work once for a challenge and ended up with a brown ribbon.
:P
I asked admin to have it removed, but decided against it. How seasoned can you possibly be if you try to hide your scars? :)
Take it, have a beer, and move on!
*edit* Sp?
Message edited by author 2006-05-02 09:51:55. |
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05/02/2006 09:54:13 AM · #8 |
| Don't worry...I have done the same thing and you are right it is discouraging...but what I tell myself (and no offense to DPC) is that DPC is so inconsistant with their voting that you could enter the exact same picture in the same challenge later on down the road and still get two totally different scores! But anyways...if your scores seem to be going down hill...just go look at my page! Lots of fours and fives there |
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05/02/2006 09:57:02 AM · #9 |
(taken from the challenge rules)
You may request removal of your own photo, for any reason, if:
You make the request during the voting period.
Originally posted by theSaj:
I disagree with Hopper. I don't think a self-DQ is your right. |
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05/02/2006 09:59:55 AM · #10 |
Speaking as a pro at self DQ's - don't bother. The Saj is 100% correct. Yes seeing a 4 or lower makes you question if you are even capable of using a Fisher Price camera...but it's just a blip. Yes you think everyone will see your low score and ask that a bell be put around your neck and have you shout 'unclean, unclean'...but truth be told no one really cares or notices, ONLY YOU notice and cringe with embarrassment... It's like those dreams where you are naked in the loo and you think everyone can see you....such is life...:))
Message edited by author 2006-05-02 10:01:51. |
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05/02/2006 10:04:09 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by amber:
Speaking as a pro at self DQ's - don't bother. The Saj is 100% correct. Yes seeing a 4 or lower makes you question if you are even capable of using a Fisher Price camera...but it's just a blip. Yes you think everyone will see your low score and ask that a bell be put around your neck and have you shout 'unclean, unclean'...but truth be told no one really cares or notices, ONLY YOU notice and cringe with embarrassment... It's like those dreams where you are naked in the loo and you think everyone can see you....such is life...:)) |
*Points at amber's cow bell*
"Unclean!! Unclean!!"
:P
(Sorry, had to :) ) |
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05/02/2006 10:12:52 AM · #12 |
I've sdq'd once. It doesn't show at all in your stats...the photo just goes away...but, YES, I felt like a coward. Didn't stop me from asking again, though. I was denied the second time. Justly so, I might add. There's just something about watching that improving average that affects our brains. It just doesn't seem right to get a score that throws you back to when you first started entering challenges.
I bet you all can't wait to see my stupid, stupid and did I say? stupid negative entry. 4.4 (Amber's right. It matters mostly to ourselves.)
We'll get over it, tallbloke. Our egos will survive. If I have to tough it out, so do you! Hang in there.
For the record, I kind of like my entry in a stupid way. ;) |
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05/02/2006 10:25:52 AM · #13 |
I havent even had a really good score yet and I'm still embarrased by my low four this week. I should'nt have entered if I didnt have anything strong to enter with. LEssoned learned. I'll just take that info and do better next time. My other photo is my personal best at just over 6 last night(now its 5.93..argh!)and I cant even let myself enjoy it because that low four is killing my ego. I wouldnt DQ though. you might get really great and helpful comments if you leave it up. Ive only been taking photos(other than blurry,family vacation shots. lol) a couple weeks myself so I can use the comments. not sure if you feel you could use them or not. but I say suck it up. it'll pass.
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05/02/2006 10:28:53 AM · #14 |
Y'know one of the bestest things about this site is the response to this type of post from the participants.
Thanks to everyone,
Sod it, the submission stays, it's poor, I know it, the voters know it and it'll be my worst score for ages.
so, roll on the next challenge....
:-)
Steve
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05/02/2006 10:30:18 AM · #15 |
Thats the spirit Steve!
You've definately got it in you and everybody hits lows... we have to, so that we can appreciate the highs even more.
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05/02/2006 10:35:56 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Just a thought, Tallbloke: If you Self-DQ, whenever someone looks at your portfolio page they'll see the pretty pink stripe and go down to have a look. Whereas, a 4.0 just fades into the woodwork and if anybody does see it, they will probably think "oh, yeah, I've been there too." |
Actually, on self-dq's I don't think anything shows in your profile at all relating to that challenge entry.
Oops. Just read Marjo's comment...sorry, I missed it.
Message edited by author 2006-05-02 10:36:54. |
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05/02/2006 10:39:47 AM · #17 |
Sometimes I specially like my entry but others don't.My last results : 4.259 , 5.134 , 4.416 , 5.257 , 5.267 and last one 5.951.
Nobody likes bad results/"bad" comments but I think that asking for a DQ is not the solution , self DQ for bad score is like to fool oneself.
If the most important thing for you is your average vote received ,then go ahead with the self DQ , others will maybe never know about that but you will and those numbers will only reflect a fake.
Imo there are more important things and 4's make us remember that we're not perfect , that we still have a lot to learn ... |
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05/02/2006 10:49:11 AM · #18 |
Turn off your scores. It makes your homepage so nice and peaceful and pleasant to visit ;-)
A person who only gets high scores is playing to the crowd, is not testing their art. Look at jjbeguin. Now there is an admirable record. Here is a photographer who enjoys himself and his art first. He doesn't need the virtual kudos and he isn't crushed by make-believe thrashings.
Wear your 4 as a badge of honor!
p.s. hey, wanna join team suck? .....psych! |
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05/02/2006 10:52:17 AM · #19 |
Well, I'm in the exact same position as you, looking at my first 4 in quite a while.
Here's what I am thinking. Forget the score. Look at the picture. Does it meet the challenge? Do you like it artistically? Would you be proud to print and hang it?
If so, then leave it. I've just decided to leave mine. :)
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05/02/2006 10:54:19 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
Well, I'm in the exact same position as you, looking at my first 4 in quite a while.
Here's what I am thinking. Forget the score. Look at the picture. Does it meet the challenge? Do you like it artistically? Would you be proud to print and hang it?
If so, then leave it. I've just decided to leave mine. :) |
Well done ! |
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05/02/2006 10:55:04 AM · #21 |
| Consider it taking one for the team - making us little people feel a little better. ;) |
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05/02/2006 11:05:07 AM · #22 |
To me, I think a self-DQ should be reserved for when you accidentally broke the rules (ie accidentally run an advanced editted photo in a basic challenge). Or perhaps when you made a complete booboo like scalvert's recent wrong challenge entry :-P
I've got a few 4.* images in my portfolio, none which are technically bad photos. I don't really care because I'm not the type to cater to the voters. I shoot it, put it out there. If they like it, they like it. If they don't, then well they're morons :-P j/k
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05/02/2006 11:09:18 AM · #23 |
Consider this kind of thing is a whole different light. How about skiing. My wife hasn't fallen skiing in 20 years. My son falls often. Who is staying the same and who is getting better?
Besides, ancient oriental wisdom says, "Man who stand on tip toes is not steady." My translation - it is very hard to stay above the rest and possibly not a stable place in which to stand.
6 on this 4 on that - who cares as long as you are trying different things and are enjoying what you are doing. If it is only about the 6s and 7s, then maybe, well...I will leave that one alone.
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05/02/2006 11:11:38 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
If they like it, they like it. If they don't, then well they're morons :-P j/k |
lol
Ahhhh I'm beginning to see the light now
Steve |
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05/02/2006 11:15:38 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
To me, I think a self-DQ should be reserved for when you accidentally broke the rules (ie accidentally run an advanced editted photo in a basic challenge). Or perhaps when you made a complete booboo like scalvert's recent wrong challenge entry :-P
I've got a few 4.* images in my portfolio, none which are technically bad photos. I don't really care because I'm not the type to cater to the voters. I shoot it, put it out there. If they like it, they like it. If they don't, then well they're morons :-P j/k |
I agree. You've listed the right reasons to self dq.
My current entry isn't technically sound and I was fooled into thinking that inverting it helped the problem. Just one of those stupid moments. Okay, I'm over it. Thanks for posting Tallbloke.
Message edited by author 2006-05-02 11:16:33. |
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