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04/19/2006 04:06:36 PM · #1 |
As of right now, prices for the Canon 300D and 10D are pretty much the same. I will be getting either one as my very first DSLR, so which one will be better for me?
Differences:
300D------------------------------------10D
100-1600 ISO-------------------------100-3200 (H)
6 positions & manual preset-----6 positions, Kelvin & manual preset
hot-shoe, E-TTL----------------------hot-shoe & sync
Auto--------------------------------------35 area eval, center weighted, partial
EOS EF, EF-S mount----------------EOS EF mount
2.5 fps max 4 images---------------3 fps max 9 images
E3 connector, InfraRed-------------N3 connector
10 sec-----------------------------------10 sec (2 sec with mirror lock-up)
JPEG (EXIF 2.2)-----------------------JPEG (EXIF) |
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04/19/2006 04:09:27 PM · #2 |
I think that you can get the equivalent of ISO 3200 on the 300D using a firmware hack.
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04/19/2006 04:15:41 PM · #3 |
By putting the Undutchables firmware (free)in the 300D you get most of the 10D functions (like mirror lock up, ISO3200, RAW in all modes, flash exposure compensation, etc)
On ebay under completed auctons i see 300Ds from $390 to $529 ($455 avg)
I see 10Ds for 560-630 (595 avg)
So the diff is $140 or so.
I had a 300D, now have a 20/30D and now understand a bit more the differences between the consumer and pro bodies (menu, Cfn, etc).
Unless you need the higher FPS/larger buffer of the 10D, save the up fornt costs and get a 300D and better/more lenses.
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04/19/2006 04:29:12 PM · #4 |
The 300D is cheaper.
It accepts EF-S lenses.
It has pretty good bang for the buck.
They are about $450 on KEH.com.
The 10D has a magnesium body.
It has a longer shutter life.
It can go to 3200ISO (though I don't reccomend it!)
It has much easier to use controls.
They run about $580 on KEH.com.
I would reccomend a D70, but between these two I would reccomend the 10D. It will make you much happier; not in image quality, but in the field. |
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04/19/2006 04:34:47 PM · #5 |
For the same price, the 10D is the better buy. It was a state-of-the-art DSLR at the time it was introduced. The 300D is a reduced feature, less sturdy version of the 10D that was introduced to sell for less and attract budget conscience shoppers to Canon.
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04/19/2006 04:36:05 PM · #6 |
| I moved from the 300D to the 10D and I haven't looked back. The body is bigger, heavier, and more substanial on the 10D. It has a faster burst rate and and larger buffer. Only drawback is that it doesn't accept EF-S lenses... oh, and the 10D has the control wheel on the back. |
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04/19/2006 05:02:14 PM · #7 |
Both the 10D and the 300D have E-TTL.
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04/19/2006 05:09:51 PM · #8 |
| I'd get the 10D. I started out with a 300D Rebel and then moved up to a 10D. The 10D is a much nicer, more sturdy camera than the 300D. It is really built well and works exceptionally well. The 300D Rebel is made of plastic and the shutter won't stand up to as many shots as the 10D. |
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04/19/2006 05:19:32 PM · #9 |
This was the choice I was looking at when I bought the 10D.
My main reason for going the 10D route was the ability to select the metering and focus mode I wanted. The 300D sets these based on the shooting mode.
I also like the wheel on the back. It's what I was used to with my Elan II film camera.
Since they are of similar price, the main way to choose is to hold both and operate both then pick the one the feels the most natural.
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04/19/2006 10:06:10 PM · #10 |
| Thanks all. So the 10D has TTL? dpreview must've made a mistake then. If anyone finds a good deal on the 10D please post here, I'd really appreciate it! |
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04/21/2006 01:02:32 PM · #11 |
Out of your choices, I would get the 10D.
I'd like to throw in a factory refurbished Nikon D50, if they are still available at beachcamera.com for about $389.
If I was look for a dslr now, I'd skip the 300D and 10D b/c they are not very responsive, it takes a long time to turn on, write the image to CF cards, long time to review, long time to wake up. It can get really frustrating, especially if you're used to more responsive cameras.
The Nikon has great image quality and is much more responsive with a larger LCD for more chimping pleasure as well. Even takes SD cards...
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04/21/2006 01:08:31 PM · #12 |
if you take action shots ... you should know the 300D does NOT have servo focus (continous focus even when shutter is 1/2 pressed)
firmware hack does NOT fix this shortcoming
and it's the only thing i REALLY HATE about my camera
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04/21/2006 04:08:22 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by hopper:
if you take action shots ... you should know the 300D does NOT have servo focus (continous focus even when shutter is 1/2 pressed)
firmware hack does NOT fix this shortcoming
and it's the only thing i REALLY HATE about my camera
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One workaround for this problem with the hack is to leave it in AI SERVO, keep the shutter pressed and then turn the AF to MF which will activate the shutter and then swithc back to AF. I don't know how durable the AF/MF button on a lens is though.
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04/21/2006 04:48:36 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by yido:
Out of your choices, I would get the 10D.
If I was look for a dslr now, I'd skip the 300D and 10D b/c they are not very responsive, it takes a long time to turn on, write the image to CF cards, long time to review, long time to wake up. It can get really frustrating, especially if you're used to more responsive cameras.
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Is there a website documenting just how fast the write time and start-up time are? I just want to compare. But I doubt it's going to be a problem for me since I'm used to P&S lol.
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04/21/2006 05:19:42 PM · #15 |
//www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/page10.asp
//www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EDR/EDRA7.HTM
I think the 10D has the same speed.
It didn't bother me at first, but when I got the 1DMark IIN, the rebel became so slow, it drove me nuts till I got the XT. Much better now.
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