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04/14/2006 02:29:21 PM · #1
*I did search the forums,

I want rent on for 70-200 2.8 IS USM,

Questions
1. i know my aperature will drop to 5.6
2. Will my image quality drop
3. is focusing slower,
4. any pros and cons you may have,

would i just be better off renting a 400MM,

what i need it for is, I got a spot on a press boat to photograph the start of the Newport to Ensada yatch race and 4 houres into the race, i am thinking i need some range,

and any tips you guys could give me for shooting from the ocean on a boat.

Thanks

04/14/2006 02:48:52 PM · #2
also, do you think it will be really bright so should i get a filter of sorts.
04/14/2006 02:53:38 PM · #3
if you're going to rent anyway and you're not sure what kind of range you'll need, why not rent the Sigma 50-500 or 80-400 with IS?

yes, image quality will drop

yes, it'll focus slower
04/14/2006 02:54:24 PM · #4
A shot using the TC at effective aperture of f/5.6


100% crop


A shot using the TC at f/10


100% crop


Focussing is a little slower, but not drastically. In half-decent light, the difference is not really noticeable to me. Focussing, however, will be less accurate, as the effective aperture during focussing is smaller than f/2.8, so the high-precision sensors will not be in use.

The zoom would probably give you much more flexibility in composition. Unless you go for having one body with the 70-200 and a second with the 400.
04/14/2006 02:55:46 PM · #5
I personally would recommend renting the 100-400mm or possibly even the 50-500mm Sigma since you might wasn something wider than 70 or 100mm when the boats come in close to the race line.

;)

Message edited by author 2006-04-14 14:56:12.
04/14/2006 02:58:43 PM · #6
Originally posted by hopper:

if you're going to rent anyway and you're not sure what kind of range you'll need, why not rent the Sigma 50-500 or 80-400 with IS?

yes, image quality will drop

yes, it'll focus slower


From my experience, the 80-400 is quite a bit sharper than the 70-200 with a 2x TC. It also has a greater zoom range (taking off the TC mid-action is not really an option). The downside is the fact that the Sigma focusses a lot slower and the zoom ring needs quite a bit of turning to go from one end of the range to the other. The OS works quite well, although it seems to take a little longer than the 70-200 to fully activate.
04/14/2006 02:59:08 PM · #7
im going to have one camera the 5D with my 24-70, and a 20D with
the 70-200 and teleconverter or 100-400
its going to cost a littl4e chunk of change to rent one though

Message edited by author 2006-04-14 15:02:04.
04/14/2006 03:08:48 PM · #8
Originally posted by TroyMosley:

im going to have one camera the 5D with my 24-70, and a 20D with
the 70-200 and teleconverter or 100-400
its going to cost a littl4e chunk of change to rent one though


also what would it be if i used a 20D w/1.6 crop anda 2x teleconverter, taht would make it at 224-640

Message edited by author 2006-04-14 15:11:27.
04/14/2006 03:13:37 PM · #9
640mm from a boat ... i hope it's a real big, non-moving, unaffected by wind and choppy water boat ... otherwise sharpness may be an issue.

Originally posted by TroyMosley:

also what would it be if i used a 20D w/1.6 crop anda 2x teleconverter, taht would make it at 224-640
04/14/2006 04:12:37 PM · #10
I have 70-200 2.8 USM, non IS and a 2x teleconverter and I'm dissapointed with both sharpness and focus speed. I hardly ever use it only sometimes when in brilliant sunshine, infact I plan to sell the teleconverter.

Basically if you want the reach and maintain sharpness you need to get a prime.

Just my view based on my experience but maybe the IS will help you.

Message edited by author 2006-04-14 16:13:09.
04/14/2006 05:18:36 PM · #11
Originally posted by keegbow:

I have 70-200 2.8 USM, non IS and a 2x teleconverter and I'm dissapointed with both sharpness and focus speed. I hardly ever use it only sometimes when in brilliant sunshine, infact I plan to sell the teleconverter.

Basically if you want the reach and maintain sharpness you need to get a prime.

Just my view based on my experience but maybe the IS will help you.

I totally agree. I asked a similar question here last week about the 2x converter. After lots of deliberation I bought the 2x. I really think that it is pants. How the hell Canon have this on the market I do not know. Do they ever take test shots with their equipment? Me thinks not. I honestly think that they put ££ or $$ first......Rant over.

Message edited by author 2006-04-14 17:19:14.
04/14/2006 06:35:58 PM · #12
Yeah, I just talked to another photographer that photographed the same race last year, he said i would need a mininum of 400mm, and when the race starts my 70-200 on a 20d will be fine, ,
so it looks like im renting a 400mm from calument for 75 bucks,
rrrrr
04/15/2006 10:55:43 PM · #13
Another option might be to use the 400mm on the 20D (effective 640mm) and the 70-200 on the 5D. The mid-range shots would be great on the 5D and if you wanted some serious reach, you could grab the 20D. If you wanted to change things up, you could switch and put the zoom on the 20D and the 400mm on the 5D. That would allow you to take some slightly more steady shots (with less effective range and a greater ISO ability on the 5D).

Sounds like a versatile setup.

I hope it's a sunny day.
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