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04/07/2006 01:29:45 PM · #1 |
I've read the tutorial and seen stunning examples of the use of dodge and burn. When I try to use them, I get terrible results. I don't know if it is the settings or just me. Anyone have any tips? |
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04/07/2006 01:36:06 PM · #2 |
I allways set the opacity to 5% and the results are just fine. Try working in different layers so you can restart if you don't like the result. |
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04/07/2006 01:50:23 PM · #3 |
Goto layers new
set blend to overlay
click 50% gray box then ok
Using the paint brush
foreground black = burn
foreground white = dodge
adjust brush opacity as needed |
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04/07/2006 01:59:08 PM · #4 |
That did help. Is there a trick to darken the edges evenly, or do you just need a steady hand? |
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04/07/2006 02:05:30 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by chaimelle: That did help. Is there a trick to darken the edges evenly, or do you just need a steady hand? |
I guess you could use a layer mask, but I didn't tried it though. |
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04/07/2006 02:29:38 PM · #6 |
PLEASE put a link on the tutorial. I wanna try this.
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04/07/2006 02:45:47 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by chaimelle: That did help. Is there a trick to darken the edges evenly, or do you just need a steady hand? |
You can lay a black-to-transparent gradient onto the 50% gray layer, then use "edit/fade gradient" to adjust it as needed. Draw it in from the edge you want darkened towards the center.
R.
Message edited by author 2006-04-07 14:46:01.
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04/07/2006 02:49:33 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by marcellieb: PLEASE put a link on the tutorial. I wanna try this. |
PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE
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04/07/2006 02:54:06 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by marcellieb: Originally posted by marcellieb: PLEASE put a link on the tutorial. I wanna try this. |
PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE |
//www.dpchallenge.com/tutorial.php?TUTORIAL_ID=30 |
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04/07/2006 02:57:21 PM · #10 |
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04/07/2006 03:00:28 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by PhotoRyno: Goto layers new
set blend to overlay
click 50% gray box then ok
Using the paint brush
foreground black = burn
foreground white = dodge
adjust brush opacity as needed |
This is my favorite method for dodge and burn also. For those possibly confused, this does NOT use the dodge or burn tools themselves.
The reason I like this method over the tools is that it has a more natural blend with the existing image and is less destructive.
Starting with brush opacity around 10% for black and a little less for white is a good starting point. Also try different modes settings for the brushes. "vivid light" mode with white is nice for making trees, rocks and scrubbery stand out more.
Another thing I like to use the "dodge and burn" layer for is color painting. My images tend to come out with dulled colors so I need to recover them. It does a better job than a Hue/Sat adjustment layer. In this technique you make a color range selection, like blues or reds, select the color for painting and paint in the "dodge and burn" layer.
1-Select "color range". Drag eyedropper over range of colors you need to improve until all the tones for that color have been selected.
2-Save the selection in case to need to reuse it.
3-Feather selection to prevent bleeding into unwanted areas.
4-Be sure you have the "dodge and burn" layer highlighted
5-Use eyedroper to select a single paint color from the image itself OR simply select your desired color from the color dial.
5-Set brush opacity and make the brush size large and paint away.
Brush size doesn't matter because the selection prevents you painting in unwanted areas. The best brush opacity varies a lot so it is good to try one setting first and then make it larger or smaller depending on the desired effect.
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04/07/2006 03:25:20 PM · #12 |
A couple other related suggestions:
Save "Dodge and Burn" for the end of your workflow
Use adjustment layers like "Layers", "Curves", Hue-Sat" and "Selected Color" for your general, global image adjustments first. "Dodge and Burn" is better thought of as a fine adjustment to specific areas of the image at the end after everything else has been tried.
Fill in "hot spots" with low opacity cloning
It is common that image adjustments for a particular effect creates undesirable bright hot spots on the image that cannot be fixed with "dodge and burn". You see this on DPC submissions all the time, especially in the sky. A surprisingly easy and effective way to fill in these spots is to select the clone tool, set brush opacity low around 10-25%, select a non-descript but similar area of the image to clone from and brush lightly until the hot spot is softened.
Message edited by author 2006-04-07 15:27:38.
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04/07/2006 03:52:25 PM · #13 |
I always wondered how many people actually use the dodge/burn tools. I only use them for final spot edits after I already created the overall effect using curve adjustment layers. Also I noticed that using the dodge/burn tools tend to produce unwanted color bleeds/saturations.
Edited for clarity
Message edited by author 2006-04-07 15:54:22.
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